Calculating Resonant Tank Values for a Clapp Oscillator

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The discussion focuses on calculating the resonant tank values for a Clapp oscillator, specifically aiming for a target frequency of 3 MHz. Participants explore the roles of various capacitors and inductors in the circuit, as well as the configuration of components in simulation software.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the calculation of resonant tank values, mentioning the formula for equivalent capacitance and the requirement for Cs to be significantly smaller than C1 and C2.
  • Another participant argues against having a capacitor in series with the inductor, stating that it should allow DC current to pass for the transistor operation.
  • A suggestion is made to calculate the inductor and total capacitance to achieve a reactance of 200 ohms at 3 MHz, proposing L = 11 µH and C = 265 pF.
  • There is a clarification that the larger capacitor in a series configuration should be twice the size of the smaller one, and the emitter resistor value is noted as potentially high.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the purpose of the additional capacitors in the Clapp oscillator and requests guidance on achieving the desired frequency using their initial diagram.
  • A recommendation is made to adjust a variable capacitor value from 100 nF to 100 pF and to ensure proper transistor DC operating voltages.
  • Another participant shares a classic Clapp oscillator diagram and mentions successful modeling in LTSpice.
  • One participant expresses gratitude for the shared model and indicates success in creating a correct model in Multisim.

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Participants express differing views on the configuration of capacitors in relation to the inductor and the overall circuit design. There is no consensus on the correct setup or values, and multiple competing views remain regarding the design and calculations for the Clapp oscillator.

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Participants mention various assumptions about component values and configurations, but these are not universally agreed upon. The discussion includes references to specific circuit diagrams and simulation software, which may not align with all participants' approaches.

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Hi can anybody explain to me how to calculate values for the resonant tank of the clapp oscillator. I know that capacitor in series with inductor sets the frequency. But I ve read that formula 1/Ceq = 1/c1+1/c2+ 1/cs, should be used to get Ceq which should be used for frequency setting. So what values of L, C1, C2, and Cs have i got to use to get like 3 MHz. I also know that Cs has to be much smaller then C1 and C2, much smaller means like 100 times?
What values of C1 and C2 to use?
I tried to make it work in multisim and included the diagram. Is it connected properly, the feedback goes from between thes tow capacitors? the Thank you
 

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The capacitor in series with the coil should not be there as the coil has to carry DC current for the transistor. Capacitors do not conduct DC current.

As a ball-park figure, I would calculate the size of inductor and total capacitance to have a reactance of 200 ohms at the required frequency. This is arbitrary, but gives a starting point.

In this case L = 11 µH and C = 265 pF should resonate around 3 MHz.

C should consist of two capacitors in series where one is twice the size of the other. The larger one would be the top one in your diagram.

The emitter resistor seems a bit high, but you can juggle that when you simulate it. Try for a current of about 10 mA.
 
Hi again:)
In clapp oscillator the capacitor has to be in series with inductor. They set the resonant frequency, but the purpose of other two capacitor is unknown to me. And in my previous diagram i did not put RFchoke. I attched a diagram of clapp oscillator found on the internet.
The probelm i have is to what steps I should take in order to have frequency like 3 MHz using my first diagram.
Do you think you could try creating a model in spice and see if it works? All i got is nearly stedy value equal supply voltage. Thank you
 

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That 100 nF variable capacitor CT should probably be 100 pF. Try that.

This is not the normal Clapp oscillator circuit. Normally, the coil and capacitors are on the base side of a transistor (or the gate side of a FET) and they are between the base and emitter (or gate and source of a FET).

It is usually like this, if you ignore the component values and everything to the right of the oscillator:

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All the capacitors are in series across the coil so they all have to be considered when working out the resonance frequency.

Do not forget that the transistor DC operating voltages must be OK before this or any other circuit will work. So zero volts or 15 volts on the emitter would be unacceptable.

The inductor marked RFC in your diagram could be modeled with 1 mH.
 
This is the classic Clapp oscillator:

[PLAIN]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4222062/Clapp%20Oscillator%20BJT.PNG

It seems to model OK in LTSpice.
 
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Hi, thanks for that spice model and explanations. That really helped. I think I managed to create a correct model in Multisim. Thanks again.
 

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