Calculating Series Resonance at 50Hz: Inductance Question

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The discussion revolves around calculating the inductance required for a circuit to achieve series resonance at a frequency of 50Hz, based on given voltage and impedance values. Participants explore various equations and calculations related to the problem, with a focus on the relationship between capacitance and inductance in an AC circuit.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the initial problem and attempts to calculate the inductance using the equation 1/2π fc = 2 π fl, but expresses uncertainty about their solution.
  • Another participant suggests checking the math and provides an alternative calculation for capacitance and inductance, leading to a different value for inductance.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the suggested equations and their origin, indicating a lack of familiarity with them compared to what was taught by their lecturer.
  • Further calculations are presented, with one participant recalculating capacitance and inductance but arriving at what they believe to be incorrect results.
  • Another participant reiterates the correct equation for capacitance and provides a recalculated value, leading to a proposed inductance value.
  • One participant acknowledges the final values presented by another, confirming they align with the goal of achieving series resonance.
  • There is a note about ensuring significant figures are maintained in the final answers.

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Participants express differing views on the correctness of calculations and the equations used. There is no consensus on the best approach or the accuracy of the results, as some participants question the validity of the equations and calculations presented.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference equations not covered in their coursework, leading to confusion. There are also discrepancies in the calculated values for capacitance and inductance, indicating potential misunderstandings of the underlying concepts.

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Homework Statement



An AC generator produces a voltage of 230<45º volts. It is connected across an impedance of 17.4<-33º ohms.

The supply frequency = 50Hz


I got my assignment back and this question wrong, maybe you can guide me, please because I’m not sure entirety. Help is appreciated.

Question: Calculate the value of inductance that will make the circuit become series resonant at 50Hz?


Homework Equations



1/2π fc = 2 π fl

The Attempt at a Solution



I= 17.4 sin33 = 9.47
C= 1/2 π (50x9.47) = 3.36x10^-6
Would it be: 2 π fl > 2 π(50) = 314 ?
 
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Hmm, check your math. If

[tex]X_c=\frac{1}{j\omega C}[/tex]

then C = 3.36e-4. When I plug C into

[tex]L=\frac{1}{\omega^2 C}[/tex]

I get L=0.030.
 
Thanks for the responce, but I don't undestand why you say check my math, what wrong with it. You've confused me now.


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Also where did those two other equations come from cause my lecturer has not used them, there not the ones i was using?

1/2π fc = 2 π fl

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ForgottenMemo said:
C= 1/2 π (50x9.47) = 3.36x10^-6
The values are correct but the answer is wrong. Try it again.

ForgottenMemo said:
1/2π fc = 2 π fl
so in your notation,

[tex]l=\frac{1}{(2\pi f)^2 c}[/tex]

I get l=0.030.
 
Hello,

I re-calculated it and got this for C:

C= 1/2 π (50x9.47) = 743.7

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Using : [tex]l=\frac{1}{(2\pi f)^2 c}[/tex]



1/(2πx50)^2 = 1.013x10^-5

(1.013x10^-5) x C (743.7) = 7.5x10^-3

Which is utterly wrong.

I broke it down into chucks thinking tit would help, either way i get the same answer above.
 
ForgottenMemo said:
Hello,

I re-calculated it and got this for C:

C= 1/2 π (50x9.47) = 743.7
No, that's why I wrote down the equations before. The correct equation in your notation is
[tex]C=\frac{1}{2\pi f I}.[/tex]

Take a look in your book! Physics Forums is not a replacement for studying.
 
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Im sorry my limited amount of knowleadge, i find it hard to understand even on a good day (It takes me a couple of times, before it all sinks in, esp, when the lecturer is not even good, nor textbooks or websites make it clear).

[tex]C=\frac{1}{2\pi f I}.[/tex] => [tex]C=\frac{1}{2\pi 50 9.47}.[/tex] = 3.361*10^-4

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[tex]l=\frac{1}{(2\pi f)^2 c}[/tex] => 1 / (2pi x 50)^2 x 3.361x10^-4) = 0.030155 = 30155uH


So basically,that will make the circuit become series resonant at 50Hz, is that it marcus.
 
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Yes, that's it!
Watch out for the number of digits in your answer, though. Since the problem specified three significant digits (17.4 ohms), your answers should also have 3 significant digits: 0.030 H and 3.36e-4 F.
 
Thanks for the help Marcus, it was most kind.
 

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