Calculating Spring Constant - Force or Energy?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the spring constant (k) using two distinct methods: force equilibrium and energy conservation. The first method equates the spring force (kx) to gravitational force (mg), yielding the formula k = mg/x. The second method involves equating gravitational potential energy lost (mgx) to the energy gained by the spring (1/2 kx^2) and the kinetic energy of the mass (1/2 mv^2). The confusion arises when the energy method produces a different value for k, which is half of the value obtained from the force method, indicating a misunderstanding of the energy conservation principles in dynamic scenarios.

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  • Understanding of Hooke's Law and spring force (kx)
  • Basic knowledge of gravitational force (mg)
  • Familiarity with energy conservation principles in physics
  • Ability to manipulate equations involving kinetic and potential energy
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  • Investigate real-world applications of spring constants in engineering and physics
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This discussion is beneficial for physics students, educators, and anyone interested in understanding the principles of mechanics related to springs and energy conservation.

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I've been being confused lately as to the 2 methods. The example I'm thinking of is when a weight of mass m is hung on a spring and it stretches x meters.

First of all, I know you can equate the spring force (kx) to the force of gravity (mg), to get
k = mg/x

But is it also possible to say that the gravitational potential energy lost (mgx) is equal to the energy gained by the spring (1/2 kx^2)? When I do this, I get a different k which is half the original k and probably wrong. How can you calculate K for this problem using energy?
 
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The first method F = mg = kx is what you would use to find the spring constant k. The second equation is used for the dynamic problem "How fast is the mass moving at distance x?". To solve, equate the potential energy "lost" by the downward motion to the potential energy of the spring AND the kinetic energy of the object: E = mgx = (1/2 kx^2) + (1/2 mv^2)
 

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