Calculating Talk Time for a 1050mAh Mobile Phone Battery Pack

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To calculate the talk time for a 1050mAh mobile phone battery pack operating at 3.5V with an average current draw of 100mA, the formula used is time (t) = capacity (Cb) / current (I). This results in a talk time of 10.5 hours or 630 minutes. For energy storage, the formula E = Cb x V is applied, yielding 3.675, but it needs to be converted into SI units for proper interpretation. The discussion emphasizes the importance of using correct units and algebraic manipulation to arrive at accurate results. Overall, understanding these calculations is crucial for determining battery performance.
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Homework Statement



A primary energy source is able to provide 0.7 Watts power in order to charge a mobile telephone battery pack. The telephone operates at 3.5 V, and the mobile telephone’s 3.5 V battery pack has a capacity of 1050mAh. In “talk” the mobile phone draws an average current from its battery of 100mA.

(i) How many minutes of talk time will this battery pack provide, at the average current for “talk”?




Homework Equations


P=0.7
I=100mA
V=3.5V



The Attempt at a Solution


Now I'm not sure what formula to use in order to find time. Can someone help me?
 
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The capacity of the battery is given in mAh. This means units of current (amps) times units of time. So what would be the formula that defines the capacity of the battery?
 


This formula.
(Cb) = I x t

then
time = C / I
?
I need to find time
 
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Travian said:
This formula.
(Cb) = I x t
Yes, this is it. It is actually electric charge (Q) but in battery industry they call it capacity.


Travian said:
then
time = I / (Cb)
?
I need to find time


No, this is not correct. Watch your algebra.
You need to find time and you can do it from the formula above (Cb=I x t). Solve for t.
 


Sorry i changed it to time=Cb/I

How can i use this formula (Cb=I x t) if i don't know time?
Shouldn't i use this? t=Cb/I (t = 1.05Ah / 0.1A = 10.5)
 
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Travian said:
Sorry i changed it to time=Cb/I

How can i use this formula (Cb=I x t) if i don't know time?
Shouldn't i use this? t=Cb/I (t = 1.05Ah / 0.1A = 10.5)
Yes, now it's OK. You use Cb=I*t to calculate the time, t= Cb/I, as you wrote above.
First time you wrote t=I/Cb which is not correct.
 


so the answer i suppose is 10.5 hour = 650 minutes.
 
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There are more to this exercise.

(ii)How much energy (in Joule units) is stored in the battery pack, when fully charged?

I used this formula:

E = Cb x V
E = 1.05Ah x 3.5V
E = 3.675 (what units?)
 


Travian said:
There are more to this exercise.

(ii)How much energy (in Joule units) is stored in the battery pack, when fully charged?

I used this formula:

E = Cb x V
E = 1.05Ah x 3.5V
E = 3.675 (what units?)

If you convert your inputs in SI units (something you did not do here) then the answer should be in SI units of energy, as required in the question.
 
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SI units.. Ah to mAh and V to mV?
 
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