Calculating the Age of 1.4g of Charcoal Using Beta Decay

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The discussion revolves around calculating the age of a 1.4g sample of charcoal based on its beta decay rate. The original poster presents a scenario involving the decay of carbon-14 isotopes, providing specific data about the sample and decay rates.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the decay rate and the number of decays per minute. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the decay rate's units and how it connects to the decay process of carbon-14 atoms.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, clarifying concepts related to decay rates and the number of atoms. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the decay rate and the number of decays, but no consensus has been reached on the next steps for solving the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the application of two different rates in the problem, and participants are seeking clarity on how to proceed with the calculations given the information provided.

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Homework Statement


Suppose you have a 1.4g sample of old charcoal. It produces 0.7 beta decays per minute. How old is the charcoal.

Given:
1g of carbon current day has 6.36x1010 atoms of 14C


Homework Equations



N = Noe-rt

N = number of atoms in the sample (current-day)
No = original number of atoms (i.e. at time of death)
r = decay rate = 1.21x10-4
t = time

The Attempt at a Solution



I know that No = 1.4*6.36x1010 = 8.904x1010
r = 1.21x10-4

what I don't understand is what to do with the 0.7 decays per minute. I know I need to solve for N before I can solve for t, but I'm stuck. As soon as I solve for N, it's plug and chug.

Any help would be much appreciated!
 
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It would be helpful to know the units of the decay rate r.
 
If you have N C14 atoms, how many of them decays in unit time? How is it related to the decay rate?

ehild
 
SteamKing said:
It would be helpful to know the units of the decay rate r.

r = 1.21x10-4 /year


echild said:
If you have N C14 atoms, how many of them decays in unit time? How is it related to the decay rate?

If I have N C-14 atoms, then 0.7 of those N atoms decay each minute.. 0.7 decay/minute = 367920 atom decays per year.

I'm not sure how it's related to the decay rate. Sorry, I haven't done a problem with two rates before and it's really confusing.
 
N is the number of the 14C atoms in the sample at present. N0 was the number of atoms when the sample got isolated. N=N0e-rt, so dN/dt=-rN0e-rt=-rN.

rN atoms decays in a year, that is about 368000 in the 1.4 g sample. You know r. What is N then?
Originally there were 6.36x1010atoms of 14C in 1 g sample. Current-day means "fresh" sample, which can interact with the surroundings, so has supply of 14C. The charcoal is isolated, so the number of 14C atom decreases with time.

ehild
 

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