Calculating the average power supplied by a source

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the average power supplied by a source in a series RC circuit with an AC voltage input. Participants explore the relationships between voltage, current, resistance, and reactance to derive the necessary expressions for power calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the circuit parameters and expresses confusion about finding the power without an expression for current.
  • Another participant suggests deriving the current from known values of voltage and circuit components.
  • A participant emphasizes the need to calculate capacitive reactance and total impedance to find the current.
  • One participant calculates the reactance and total impedance, questioning if they can use the admittance relation to find the current.
  • Responses confirm that using the magnitude of impedance and voltage is valid for calculating current and subsequently the power absorbed by the resistor.
  • A later reply expresses gratitude for the assistance received in arriving at the answer.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach to derive the current and calculate power, but there is no explicit consensus on the initial confusion regarding the power calculation without an expression for current.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on specific circuit parameters and relationships, but there may be assumptions regarding the familiarity with AC circuit analysis that are not explicitly stated.

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1. For the circuit shown in (Figure 1) , where V= 2.8 cos(2 t+ 0.3 ) , R= 8 Ω and C= 4×10−2 F , find the average power supplied by the source, Ps and the average power absorbed by the resistor PR .2. p (t) = v(t)i(t) = VmIm cos (ωt + θv) cos (ωt + θi)
PR = (1/2)(V2m/R)3. From the expression given, I've managed to isolate the value of omega and Vm. But I'm confused as to how to find the power if we're not given an expression for the current.

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You're supposed to derive one from your knowledge of ##V_m## and the circuit.
 
TheBigDig said:
1. For the circuit shown in (Figure 1) , where V= 2.8 cos(2 t+ 0.3 ) , R= 8 Ω and C= 4×10−2 F , find the average power supplied by the source, Ps and the average power absorbed by the resistor PR .2. p (t) = v(t)i(t) = VmIm cos (ωt + θv) cos (ωt + θi)
PR = (1/2)(V2m/R)3. From the expression given, I've managed to isolate the value of omega and Vm. But I'm confused as to how to find the power if we're not given an expression for the current.

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I think you are complicating the problem. This is a series RC circuit excited with an ac source. You know the resistance and capacitance. What is the capacitive reactance? What is the total impedance of the circuit?
 
cnh1995 said:
I think you are complicating the problem. This is a series RC circuit excited with an ac source. You know the resistance and capacitance. What is the capacitive reactance? What is the total impedance of the circuit?
So I found the reactance to be equal to -12.5j S and the total impedance to be 8-12.5j Ω. Am I right in saying that I can then use the Y = 1/Z = I/V relation to find the current?
 
TheBigDig said:
So I found the reactance to be equal to -12.5j S and the total impedance to be 8-12.5j Ω
Yes.
TheBigDig said:
Am I right in saying that I can then use the Y = 1/Z = I/V relation to find the current?
Yes. You can also use the magnitude of impedance and voltage to calculate the magnitude of current, and then calculate the power consumed by the resistor.
 
cnh1995 said:
Yes.

Yes. You can also use the magnitude of impedance and voltage to calculate the magnitude of current, and then calculate the power consumed by the resistor.

cnh1995 said:
Yes.

Yes. You can also use the magnitude of impedance and voltage to calculate the magnitude of current, and then calculate the power consumed by the resistor.
Thanks so much. Got the answer in the end. You were a terrific aid.
 
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