Calculating the digits of pi by colliding boxes

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The discussion revolves around a method for calculating the digits of pi through a thought experiment involving colliding boxes. Participants explore the mechanics of the collisions and how they relate to the digits of pi, with references to related mathematical concepts and methods.

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  • One participant describes a scenario with two boxes colliding and notes the number of collisions correlates with the digits of pi as the mass of one box increases.
  • Another participant links this idea to a formula discovered by David Bailey for calculating the Nth digit of pi without needing previous digits, suggesting a conceptual similarity.
  • A participant expresses surprise and enthusiasm about the method of calculating pi through collisions, indicating a sense of wonder about the concept.
  • There is a mention of additional videos that further explore the mathematical implications of the collisions, suggesting a deeper dive into the topic.

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Participants generally express intrigue and appreciation for the concept, but there is no explicit consensus on the validity or implications of the method discussed. Multiple viewpoints on the relationship between the collisions and pi are present.

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The discussion does not resolve the mathematical underpinnings of the proposed method, and assumptions about the ideal conditions (e.g., no friction, no energy loss) are not critically examined.

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Readers interested in mathematical puzzles, the nature of pi, and unconventional methods of calculation may find this discussion engaging.

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Calculating the digits of pi by colliding boxes
I came across this and it is rather fun!

Assume there is a floor and a wall. There is a 1 lkg box on the left and a box to its right as shown in the diagram. Assume there is no friction and that no energy is lost during any collision.

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Set the right box to 1 kg and cause it to move to the left until it collides with the 1 kg box. It stops and the left box is pushed to the wall where it bounces off, collides with the right box and stops. The right box travels off to the right. Count the total number of collisions: there are 3.

Repeat by setting the right box to 100 kg; 10,000 kg; 1,000,000 kg ..., etc. We have:

Set the right box to 1 kg and count the collisions: there are 3
Set the right box to 100 kg and count the collisions: there are 31
Set the right box to 10,000 kg and count the collisions: there are 314
Set the right box to 1,000,000 kg and count the collisions: there are 3141

Each time you increase the right box by 100x, you generate an additional digit of pi.

The demonstration and the proof are given at The most unexpected answer to a counting puzzle and the referenced explanation videos.
 
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In a somewhat similar vein, David Bailey and colleagues discovered in 1995 a formula for calculating the Nth digit of pi without calculating the preceding digits. See Finding the N-th digit of Pi which says

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By "somewhat similar" is mean that the method similarly allows one to ignore later terms so as to force the integer answer as does the colliding boxes problem.
 
Frodo said:
Summary:: Calculating the digits of pi by colliding boxes
Astounding! I never would have believed it. Thanks for posting.

EDIT: for other readers of this thread, the real fun is in the follow-on videos which dig into the math:

Part 2 (15 minutes)
Part 3 (14+ minutes)
 
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