Calculating the directional derivative of a function of two variables

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The discussion focuses on calculating the directional derivative of the function z = log(x^2 + y^2) at the point (1,1) in the direction of the vector (1,2). The initial misunderstanding involved interpreting the vector (1,2) as a point rather than a direction, leading to an incorrect unit vector calculation. After clarification, the user correctly identified the need to use the vector (1,2) to find the unit vector and compute the directional derivative. Ultimately, the user successfully arrived at the correct answer of 3/√5, indicating improved understanding of the concept. The thread highlights the importance of accurately interpreting vector directions in calculus problems.
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Homework Statement

Consider the function:
z=f(x,y)= log(x^2 + y^2) (x,y)=/=(0,0)

Calculate the directional derivative of f(x,y) at (x,y)=(1,1) in the direction of the vector (1,2)


The attempt at a solution

When i tried to work out the unit vector from the point (1,1) to (1,2) i got (0,1).

I got partial derivative df/dx = 2x/(x^2 + y^2)
and partial derivative df/dy = 2y/(x^2 + y^2)

Then, for gradf at (1,1) i got (1,1)..

so, for directional derivative i got:

(gradf at (1,1)) x unit vector = (1,1).(0,1) = 1

But the answer is 3/root5

Does anyone know what i have done wrong? Thankyou
 
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Hi wshfulthinker! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(have a curly d: ∂ and a square-root; √ and a grad: ∇ and try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
wshfulthinker said:
Calculate the directional derivative of f(x,y) at (x,y)=(1,1) in the direction of the vector (1,2)

When i tried to work out the unit vector from the point (1,1) to (1,2) i got (0,1).

Nooo … you're msunderstanding "the direction of the vector (1,2)" …

it's not the point (1,2) (which is in direction (0,1) from (1,1), as you say) …

(1,2) is the actual direction that you're taking the derivative along.

(otherwise, your method is ok :wink:)
 
Hi, thanks for the welcome and showing me the symbols!

I don't really get it though! where do i use the point (1,2). I'm not even sure what i worked out, i followed the method that were in my lecture notes which were worded almost the exact same way as my actual question (except it said find instead of calculate - i don't know if that means it's different)
 
wshfulthinker said:
I don't really get it though! where do i use the point (1,2).

grrr! it's not a point! :rolleyes:

it's a direction … use it instead of your (0,1). :smile:
 
Okay okay... so i am pretty crap with vectors! But i got the answer finally! :D I found a book which wrote the direction in the i + j form which made more sense to me and didn't make me think it was a point. And yes, i got the answer so i think i kind of understand it now... Thankyou! :)
 
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