How to Determine the Electric Field at a Specific Point?

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The discussion revolves around determining the strength and direction of the electric field at a specific point due to an electric dipole. Participants are exploring the appropriate equations and methods to apply in this context.

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  • Participants are questioning which equations to use for calculating the electric field, with some suggesting the use of Coulomb's law and superposition of electric fields. There are attempts to apply specific formulas related to electric dipoles, but confusion arises regarding their applicability based on the distance from the dipole.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning the validity of the formulas they are using. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conditions under which certain equations apply, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can access or the methods they can employ. There is also uncertainty regarding the distances and values used in their calculations.

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Homework Statement



What are the strength and direction of the electric field at the position indicated by the dot in the figure?

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Homework Equations



Edipole = ~ [1/(4πε0)] * [2p/r3 ]
on the axis of an electric dipole

Edipole = ~ [-1/(4πε0)] * [p/r3 ]
in the plane perpendicular to an electric dipole

The Attempt at a Solution



Which equation should I use??

Thanks
 
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Neither. Your equations only apply if the two charges in the dipole are much closer together than the distance r from the dipole.
 
Avodyne said:
Neither. Your equations only apply if the two charges in the dipole are much closer together than the distance r from the dipole.

what formula would i use?
 
my textbook uses these forumulas...so i tried the problem using them

so here is my process:

p = qs

s=0.1
q=1*10-9
p=1*10-10

1/(4πε0) = 9*109

r=0.05m

plugging everything into the second equation {[-1/(4πε0)] * [p/r3 ]}, i get -7200, but this is incorrect
 
aliaze1 said:
what formula would i use?

Why not just use coulomb's law, and superimpose the two electric fields?
 
nicksauce said:
Why not just use coulomb's law, and superimpose the two electric fields?

good idea..this was my original approach, which didn't work for some reason

E=[1/(4??0)]*[q/r2]

using the two charges:

q1=1*109
q2=-1*109

and their respective distances:

r1=0.05
r2=0.01250.5 (square root)

and doing all calculations, and then adding the two charges (3600 and -720) gives me 2880, which is incorrect...
 
lol so yea...umm...any help?
 

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