Calculating the epislon ε and current intensity? help please

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electromotive force (ε) of a battery connected to a light bulb with specific resistances. The initial resistance of the bulb is 6 Ω, and the internal resistance of the battery is 2 Ω, leading to the calculation ε = I(R + r), which results in ε equaling 96 V. When the bulb is replaced with one that has a resistance of 4 Ω, the new current intensity is calculated using the same formula, yielding a current of 16 A. Participants clarify the use of resistance labels and the correct application of formulas to arrive at these values. The calculations and understanding of the equations are confirmed as correct by the participants.
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Homework Statement



a battery connected to a light bulb that has electrical resistance of (6 Ω) and the current intensity that gets through the bulb counts (12 A), if the internal resistance of the battery was (2 Ω):-
1- what is the Driving force of the battery (ε)?
2- if the light bulb was exchanged with another bulb that has resistance of (4 Ω) what would the current intensity getting through equal?


Homework Equations


ε= VR + Vr
ε=I(R+r)
ε=W/q
r=ε-VR / I
VR = I×R
Vr = I×r
(there might be other forms of the same equations)


I actually don't know weather the electrical resistance given in the problem was r, R, VR or Vr
 
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Hi phy_freak! :smile:
phy_freak said:
I actually don't know weather the electrical resistance given in the problem was r, R, VR or Vr


In this case, it's the inital letter that tells you …

r or R is for Resistance,

v or V is for Voltage (= electric potential = emf = driving force) :wink:

(and i suppose I is for Intensity of current, and W is for energy because it stands for Work, which is a form of energy)
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi phy_freak! :smile:In this case, it's the inital letter that tells you …

r or R is for Resistance,

v or V is for Voltage (= electric potential = emf = driving force) :wink:

(and i suppose I is for Intensity of current, and W is for energy because it stands for Work, which is a form of energy)


so we use the equation: ε= VR + Vr to solve the first question? then it means that VR=6 (the given bulb's resistance) and Vr=2 (battery given resistance)
so ε=6+2 =8V? is that correct?
 
phy_freak said:
so we use the equation: ε= VR + Vr to solve the first question?

No, you're misunderstanding what this equation is.

It's ε= VR + Vr,

which in words means the emf (driving force) equals the voltage drop (electric potential difference) across the resistance R plus the voltage drop across the resistance r.

R and r in this equation aren't factors, to be multiplied … they're only labels, to tell you which V you're talking about.

(so if the resistances were called R1 and R2, the voltage drops would be called V1 and V2, with the labels "1" and "2")

The equation you need is ε = I(R+r) …

(because ε= VR + Vr, and VR = IR and Vr = Ir, so altogether ε = IR + Ir = I(R+r):wink:)
 
i used ε = I(R+r), assuming that R=6 (the bulb's resistance) and r=2 (battery resistance), ε equaled 96 V.

and i used I=ε/R+r (with the ε equaling 96) for the second question, (I) equaled 16A

are those correct?
 
phy_freak said:
i used ε = I(R+r), assuming that R=6 (the bulb's resistance) and r=2 (battery resistance), ε equaled 96 V.

and i used I=ε/R+r (with the ε equaling 96) for the second question, (I) equaled 16A

are those correct?

Yup! :biggrin:
 
thank you very much you were helpful :)
 
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