Calculating the flux through the spherical surfaces at certain radius

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Homework Statement
Point charges 5 uC, -3 uC, 2 uC and 10 uC are located at (-12, 0,5). (0, 3,-4),(2, -6, 3) and (3, 0, 0), respectively. Calculate the flux through the spherical surfaces at:
i) r= 1
ii) r= 10
iii) r=15

* u = 10^-6 *
Relevant Equations
Attached below.
Relevant Equation:
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My attempt:
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Could someone please confirm my answer?
 

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You can't magically greate 10 digit accuracy results from 1 digit givens !

What is ##Q_{enc}## for ##r= 1## ?

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BvU said:
You can't magically greate 10 digit accuracy results from 1 digit givens !

What is ##Q_{enc}## for ##r= 1## ?

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Yes the answers I got were not reasonable and tried to figure out my mistakes but I couldn't.

I think it's -3 uC as r in the point (0, 3,-4) is 0, which is less than r=1.
so, the total charge enclosed is -3 uC.
 
I must asssume you have correctly given the problem statement
Calculate the flux through the spherical surfaces at:
i) r= 1
etc. And my interpretation is that such spheres are centered at the origin. So that the enclosed charge is zero for ##r=1##.
And that you are making a fairly simple exercise quite complicated unnecessarily.

Like in the other problem: what are the units for flux in your textbook ?

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BvU said:
Like in the other problem: what are the units for flux in your textbook ?
It's Coulomb.

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BvU said:
And my interpretation is that such spheres are centered at the origin. So that the enclosed charge is zero for r=1.
Sorry, I didn't get it. Could you explain further?
 
falyusuf said:
It's Coulomb.

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Confusing (for me, at least). SI unit for electric flux is different.

falyusuf said:
Sorry, I didn't get it. Could you explain further?
The exercise asks for the flux through a spherical shell with radius 1 around the origin (then 10, then 15).

I don't understand what you do with your ##\overline{R_1}## etc.

* u = 10^-6 *
There is a ##\mu## under the 'insert symbol' button:
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But (much better): with a little ##\LaTeX## you can do all kinds of math. ##\mu## becomes ##\mu##

There is a guide button at lower left:

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BvU said:
I don't understand what you do with your R1― etc.
I assume that R1 is the vector between point 1 and the origin and found it by
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What would you need that vector for ?

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BvU said:
What would you need that vector for ?

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Get its length and substitute it in this formula:
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Seems to me ##\overline {a_R}## is a unit vector. Right ?

This formula calculates ##\overline D## at the origin. Not what you want. The exercise asks for a flux (in your case apparently an electric displacement flux).

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BvU said:
Seems to me aR― is a unit vector. Right ?
BvU said:
Seems to me aR― is a unit vector. Right ?
Yes. I think about it more and find that it'll be easier to get r from the given points using this formula:
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and then simply;
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Right?
 
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Makes much more sense to me than post #1 !
And no hassle with 10-digit numbers either :wink:

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BvU said:
Makes much more sense to me than post #1 !
And no hassle with 10-digit numbers either :wink:

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Thank you so much. Appreciate your help
 
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