Calculating the Length of 3a - 5b

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The problem involves calculating the magnitude of the vector expression |3a - 5b|, where a and b are unit vectors that form a 60-degree angle with each other. Participants express confusion about the problem's requirements and the necessary calculations.

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  • Some participants suggest expressing the vectors in rectangular coordinates to facilitate subtraction and magnitude calculation. Others question their understanding of the problem and the steps involved in calculating the magnitude of the resultant vector.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering guidance on converting vectors between polar and rectangular forms. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the concepts of vector operations and magnitudes, but no consensus has been reached on a specific approach.

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Some participants express a lack of familiarity with the concepts involved, indicating that they are new to calculus and vector mathematics. The problem's context includes the use of unit vectors and the specific angle between them, which may influence the calculations.

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I am totally lost on this problem and I don't know where to begin.

If a and b are unit vectors that make an angle of 60 degrees with each other, calculate

l 3a - 5b l

the and and b have a carat of top of them

Can someone help me get started?
 
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xCanx said:
I am totally lost on this problem and I don't know where to begin.

If a and b are unit vectors that make an angle of 60 degrees with each other, calculate

l 3a - 5b l

the and and b have a carat of top of them

Can someone help me get started?

Let a(hat) be x(hat), and draw b(hat) 60 degrees up counterclockwise towards y(hat). Express the above equation in rectangular coordinates, and do the vector subtraction. Then find the magnitude of the resultant vector. Does that help?
 
I'm sorry I don't understand. It's only my third day of calculus class.

I don't understand what I am calculating?
 
xCanx said:
I'm sorry I don't understand. It's only my third day of calculus class.

I don't understand what I am calculating?

If I understand what you wrote, you are asked to ratio each vector by some scalar value (3 or 5), subtract the two vectors, then take the scalar magnitude of the resulting vector (that's generally what the "| |" symbol is use for with vectors.

Vectors can be expressed in either polar or rectangular form. Your textbook will discuss these forms, and how to convert back and forth between them. Since you are given information about the two vectors in this question initially in polar form (b is 60 degrees rotated from a), you will want to convert them into rectangular form to make them easier to subtract. You generally want vectors in rectangular form to do addition and subtraction.

So look at your book's explanation of rectangular and polar forms for expressing vectors, and the explanation of addition and subtraction of vectors in rectangular coordinates. Then look at how the book shows you to get the magnitude and direction of a vector (basically back to polar coordinates) for a vector that you have in rectangular coordinates.

That should get you going. Post your math as you work your way through the problem.
 
xCanx said:
I am totally lost on this problem and I don't know where to begin.

If a and b are unit vectors that make an angle of 60 degrees with each other, calculate

l 3a - 5b l

the and and b have a carat of top of them

Can someone help me get started?
[tex]|3a- 5b|= \sqrt{(3a-5b)\cdot(3a- 5b)}[/tex]
and [tex](3a- 5b)\cdot(3a- 5b)= 9a\cdot a- 30a\cdot b+ 25 b\cdot b[/tex]

You are told that a and b are unit vectors and that they make an angle of 60 degrees (cos(60)= 1/2) so you should be able to find [itex]a\cdot a[/itex], [itex]b\cdot b[/itex], and [itex]a \cdot b[/itex] easily.
 

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