Calculating the state for Helium

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The discussion focuses on calculating the state for Helium, specifically addressing the antisymmetry of electrons in the Hydrogen molecule (H2) and its implications for Helium. The antisymmetric wave function for fermions is represented as \Psi_\_ = 1/\sqrt(2) * (\Psi_a(r1) * \Psi_b(r2) - \Psi_b(r1) * \Psi_a(r2)). The conversation highlights the independent particle approximation used in Helium, where the total state is approximated as the product of hydrogen wave functions (\Psi = \Psi_a * \Psi_b), neglecting electron interactions. This approximation assumes the electrons are distinct, which is a critical point of discussion.

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So, when dealing with the Hydrogen molecule (H2) we know each electron is antisymmetric since they're fermions
i.e. [itex]\Psi_\_ = 1/\sqrt(2) * (\Psi_a(r1) * \Psi_b(r2) - \Psi_b(r1) * \Psi_a(r2))[/itex]

and then similarly for the spinor such that the total state, [itex]\Psi\chi[/itex] is antisymmetric

When you deal with atoms, like helim, we can approximate the state of the system as the product of hydrogen wave ([itex]\Psi = \Psi_a *\Psi_b[/itex]). But in doing so, aren't we assuming the electrons are distinct? Why not with that formula for [itex]\Psi_\_[/itex]
 
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I think this is just the lowest order approximation in which ,interaction between the electrons is neglected.it is called 'independent particle approximation'.
 

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