The ground state of helium - showing that parhelium is ground state

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The discussion revolves around the ground state of helium, specifically focusing on the identification of parahelium as the ground state. The Hamiltonian for helium is presented as a combination of two hydrogen-like Hamiltonians and the Coulomb interaction between two electrons.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the separation of the Hamiltonian and the wave functions for parahelium and orthohelium, questioning the mathematical validity of their approaches. There is an attempt to understand the implications of the wavefunction's symmetry on the energy states.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on how to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of the Hamiltonians and the significance of the wavefunction's symmetry in determining the ground state. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants are considering the effects of the Coulomb interaction and the boundary conditions relevant to the Hamiltonians. There is an acknowledgment of the need to differentiate between symmetric and antisymmetric cases in the context of the wavefunctions.

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Homework Statement



The Hamiltonian of helium can be expressed as the sum of two hydrogen Hamiltonians and that of the Coulomb interaction of two electrons.

\hat H = \hat H_1 + \hat H_2 + \hat H_{1,2}

The wave function for parahelium (spin = 0) is

\psi(1,2) = \psi_S(r_1, r_2)\dot \xi_A(s_1, s_2) with the first being a symmetric spatial function and the second being an antisymmetric one.

We can separate this into the normalized function

\psi_S(r_1,r_2) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}[\psi_1(r_1)(\psi_2(r_2)+ \psi_1(r_2)(\psi_2(r_1)]=\psi_S(r_2,r_1)

For orthohelium the functions look like this:

\psi(1,2) = \psi_A(r_1, r_2)\dot \xi_S(s_1, s_2)
\psi_A(r_1,r_2) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}[\psi_1(r_1)(\psi_2(r_2) - \psi_1(r_2)(\psi_2(r_1)]=\psi_A(r_2,r_1)

Show the ground state of helium is parahelium. The hint is what happens to the wavefunction.


Homework Equations



OK, so I start with that the Hamiltonian of the given wave function(s)

$$H_1 = \frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\partial \psi}{\partial^2 r_1^2} = E_1 \psi, H_2 = \frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\partial \psi}{\partial^2 r_1^2} = E_2 \psi,
H_{1,2} = -\frac{e^2}{4\pi\epsilon_0 r_{1,2}}$$


The Attempt at a Solution



OK, I was trying to get a handle on how to get started with this. My first thought was to treat each Hamiltonian separately and just get a wavefunction the way I would solving any Schrödinger, though I am not sure of the boundary conditions. Then I can get a value for energy. But my sense is there is a simpler way to do it. I don't need a whole walk-through I don't think, I am just trying to understand some of the slutions I do see out there.
 
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and looking into it some more I wanted to check if this was an OK (mathematically speaking) thing to do:
One thing I thought of doing was this (for H_1):

$$H_1 = -\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}(\frac{\partial^2 \psi}{\partial r_1^2}+\frac{\partial^2 \psi}{\partial r_2^2})=E_1(\psi_1(r_2)+\psi_1(r_1))$$

but again I don't know if that's kosher

Thanks.
 
Emspak said:
For orthohelium the functions look like this:

\psi(1,2) = \psi_A(r_1, r_2)\dot \xi_S(s_1, s_2)
\psi_A(r_1,r_2) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}[\psi_1(r_1)(\psi_2(r_2) - \psi_1(r_2)(\psi_2(r_1)]=\psi_A(r_2,r_1)
You mean
$$
\psi_A(r_1,r_2) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}[\psi_1(r_1) \psi_2(r_2) - \psi_1(r_2)\psi_2(r_1)]= - \psi_A(r_2,r_1)
$$

Emspak said:
OK, so I start with that the Hamiltonian of the given wave function(s)

$$H_1 = \frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\partial \psi}{\partial^2 r_1^2} = E_1 \psi, H_2 = \frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\partial \psi}{\partial^2 r_1^2} = E_2 \psi,
H_{1,2} = -\frac{e^2}{4\pi\epsilon_0 r_{1,2}}$$
You're missing the Coulomb interaction between the electrons and the nucleus. Both ##H_1## and ##H_2## look like the single-electron (hydrogenic atom) Hamiltonian.

Emspak said:
OK, I was trying to get a handle on how to get started with this. My first thought was to treat each Hamiltonian separately and just get a wavefunction the way I would solving any Schrödinger, though I am not sure of the boundary conditions.
That part should be trivial: it is easy to find the solution for a hydrogenic atom.

You have the right approach. Look at the energy of the two-electron system by first neglecting the electron-electron interaction (treat it as a perturbation, even though it is not really one).
 
OK, adding in the potential terms I wanted to make sure this was o to do:
For the \psi(r_1,r_2) function I should have (With the potential terms)
$$H_1 = -\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}(\frac{\partial^2 \psi_1}{\partial r_1^2}+\frac{\partial^2 \psi}{\partial r_2^2}-\frac{2e^2}{4\pi \epsilon_0 r}-\frac{2e^2}{4\pi \epsilon_0 r})=E_1(\psi_1(r_2)+\psi_1(r_1))$$.

To solve that I can further break that up as follows:

$$-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\partial^2 \psi_1}{\partial r_1^2}-\frac{2e^2}{4\pi \epsilon_0 r_1}=E\psi_1(r_1)$$
$$-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\partial^2 \psi}{\partial r_2^2}-\frac{2e^2}{4\pi \epsilon_0 r}=E_1\psi_1(r_2)$$.

Right? Add these energies up and I should have a different result for the asymmetric and symmetric cases. (One of the functions is negative, for one thing).
 
Emspak said:
OK, adding in the potential terms I wanted to make sure this was o to do:
For the \psi(r_1,r_2) function I should have (With the potential terms)
$$H_1 = -\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}(\frac{\partial^2 \psi_1}{\partial r_1^2}+\frac{\partial^2 \psi}{\partial r_2^2}-\frac{2e^2}{4\pi \epsilon_0 r}-\frac{2e^2}{4\pi \epsilon_0 r})=E_1(\psi_1(r_2)+\psi_1(r_1))$$.

To solve that I can further break that up as follows:

$$-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\partial^2 \psi_1}{\partial r_1^2}-\frac{2e^2}{4\pi \epsilon_0 r_1}=E\psi_1(r_1)$$
$$-\frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\partial^2 \psi}{\partial r_2^2}-\frac{2e^2}{4\pi \epsilon_0 r}=E_1\psi_1(r_2)$$.

Right? Add these energies up and I should have a different result for the asymmetric and symmetric cases. (One of the functions is negative, for one thing).

Just consider what happens to the spatial part of the wavefunction in the ground state. Is it spatially symmetric or anti-symmetric?

Now, what must the spin part be then?
 

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