Calculating the Volume of a Cylindrical Wedge Using Calculus and Geometry

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Homework Statement



Find the volume of the enclosed by the surfaces [tex]z=qx[/tex] [tex]z=0[/tex] and [tex]x²+y²=2ax[/tex]

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This is meant to be done with calculus but can verify my answer with simple geometry - should be [tex]\pi a^3q[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


So the top of the wedge will be when [tex]x=2a[/tex]

Form rectangular slices of the wedge perpendicular to the x-axis with area [tex]A=2yz=2\sqrt{x(2a-x)}qx[/tex] and volume [tex]2\sqrt{x(2a-x)}qx .dx[/tex]

Then integrate this from x=0 to x=2a gives:
V=[itex]\int ^{2a} _{0} 2q \sqrt{x^{3}(2a-x)} dx[/itex]


I've checked this numerically with wolfram alpha for certain values of a and q but I haven't got a clue how to evaluate it.. the question said to use a double integral but I don't know what a suitable double integral would be...
 
Hm I've come up with a double integral:

Break it up into segments of the cirlce in the plane perpendicular to z axis

The area of a segment at height z is [tex]\int^{2a} _{z/q} 2y dx = \int^{2a} _{z/q} 2 \sqrt{x(2a-x)} dx[/tex] and can integrate these from z=0 to 2aq giving:
[tex]\int^{2aq} _{0} \int^{2a} _{z/q} 2 \sqrt{x(2a-x)} dx dz[/tex]
 
Similar problem with evaluating the integral though..
 
Are you sure the answer isn't [tex]\frac {\pi a^3q}{2}?[/tex]
 
sharks said:
Are you sure the answer isn't [tex]\frac {\pi a^3q}{2}[/tex]?

So the cylinder has radius a and touches x=0 and x=2a
The cylinder goes up to a height of z=qx=2aq
So the total volume of the cylinder is [tex]\pi a^{2} * 2aq = 2 \pi a^{3} q[/tex]
So the volume of the half of the cylinder we're interested in is half that [tex]V=\pi a^3 q[/tex]

Am I doing something wrong?
 
What you just calculated in #5 is the volume of a normal vertically-halved cylinder of height z=2aq (upper surface being the horizontal plane z=2aq), when you should be calculating a cylindrical wedge.

Let q=0. What does this tell you about the volume?
 
sharks said:
What you just calculated in #5 is the volume of a normal vertically-halved cylinder of height z=2aq (upper surface being the horizontal plane z=2aq), when you should be calculating a cylindrical wedge.

Let q=0. What does this tell you about the volume?

What's wrong with the answer [tex]\pi a^3 q[/tex] ?

And q=0 is just zero volume..
 

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You need to divide your answer by 2 again. Why?

1. You are dealing with half of a cylinder (vertically split in half).
2. You are dealing with a wedge in the cylinder (diagonally split in half).
 
sharks said:
You need to divide your answer by 2 again. Why?

1. You are dealing with half of a cylinder (vertically split in half).

I'm dealing with an entire cylinder split in two. The equation is x²+y²=2ax (equivalent ton (x-a)²+y²=a²) not x²+y²=a².
 
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RK7 said:
I'm dealing with an entire cylinder split in two. The equation is x²+y²=2ax (equivalent ton (x-a)²+y²=a²) not x²+y²=a².

That's what i meant. Enter all the equations in a 3D software to see the volume required.
 
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Can you upload a screenshot of what your software is showing?
 
  • #12
I have drawn it on paper as you would in the exams. I suggested using a graphing software to help you to visualize it in 3D.

Here is the double integral (using polar coordinates):
[tex]\int^{\theta = \frac{\pi}{2}}_{\theta = 0} \int^{r=2a\cos \theta}_{r=0} \left[ z \right]^{qr\cos \theta}_0\,.rdrd\theta[/tex]
 
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sharks said:
I have drawn it on paper as you would in the exams. I suggested using a graphing software to help you to visualize it in 3D.

Here is the double integral (using polar coordinates):
[tex]\int^{\theta = \frac{\pi}{2}}_{\theta = 0} \int^{r=2a\cos \theta}_{r=0} \left[ z \right]^{qr\cos \theta}_0\,.rdrd\theta[/tex]

With respect, I'm fairly certain you're wrong and completely derailed the thread.
 

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