Calculating time when SCR starts up

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the time when a Silicon Controlled Rectifier (SCR) starts up in a circuit controlling an electric bell. Participants explore the relationships between voltage, current, and the components involved, including a potentiometer and various voltage drops in the circuit.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the calculation of the voltage at the diac, suggesting it may be incorrect.
  • Another participant clarifies that the angle should be found using the inverse sine function, indicating a misunderstanding in the previous calculations.
  • There is confusion regarding the equation for voltage drops in the circuit, with one participant seeking clarification on the application of Kirchhoff's law.
  • Some participants discuss the voltage drops across the potentiometer, diode, and SCR gate, noting the need for a specific voltage to trigger the SCR.
  • One participant mentions a potential mistake in a calculation involving a missing factor in the equations presented.
  • There is a discussion about the different currents flowing through the circuit after the SCR is triggered, with participants identifying the roles of each current.
  • Several participants express uncertainty about the simplicity of the calculations, indicating that the voltage is not a straight line but rather a sine wave, which complicates the analysis.
  • One participant proposes a formula relating voltage to time and angle, while another emphasizes the importance of accounting for voltage drops across all components.
  • There is a debate about the interpretation of the breakout voltage and the required current for the SCR gate, with some participants suggesting different approaches to find the necessary input voltage.
  • One participant calculates a specific voltage needed for the SCR to trigger, while others question the resulting time calculation, expressing doubts about its feasibility.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the calculations or interpretations of the circuit behavior. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the voltage drops, current flows, and the appropriate formulas to use.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion over the definitions and roles of various components in the circuit, particularly regarding the voltage drops and the relationship between the gate current and the main current through the SCR. There are also unresolved mathematical steps in the calculations presented.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or individuals interested in circuit analysis, SCR operation, and the application of Kirchhoff's laws in electrical engineering contexts.

  • #31
It's nice of you to say that!
lol

You are doing it correctly, I hope? Using sin⁻¹ (13.3 / (12√2)) = ...

Yessir!

None of these FP 'shortcuts' that are based on wistful thinking!

LOL!

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Many thanks to you and ILS! And anyone else I might be missing who replied :)
 

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