Calculating Total Internal Energy for a Monatomic Gas at Constant Pressure

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total internal energy of a monatomic gas at constant pressure, given specific parameters such as pressure, molar mass, and density. The subject area includes thermodynamics and gas laws.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the gas's molar mass, density, and the equations for internal energy. There are attempts to clarify the meaning of variables and units, particularly regarding temperature change and the ideal gas law.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the use of temperature change in the context of energy calculations. Some have suggested using the ideal gas law to derive temperature, indicating a potential direction for further exploration.

Contextual Notes

Participants note issues with unit conversions and the implications of the given parameters on the calculations. There is a focus on ensuring the correct interpretation of the variables involved in the equations.

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Homework Statement


There is a monatomic gas held at a constant pressure of P = 1.48-atm, it also has a molar mass M = 16-g/mol and density ρ =1.9 × 10-3-g·cm-3. Find the total internal energy of 1-mol of this gas.

Homework Equations


U = Q + W
E = nCvT
PV = nRT

The Attempt at a Solution


I have tried E = 3/2nRdT but I am unsure as to how I could use molar mass and density to find anything that can be subbed into the equations. I tried dividing M and ρ cm-3/mol but I'm not sure were to go from there.
 
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john mcgrain said:
I have tried E = 3/2nRdT
What does "d" stand for here?

I tried dividing M and ρ cm-3/mol .
OK. Watch the units, they're not quite correct here. With the units corrected, what useful information is this giving you?
 
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TSny said:
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What does "d" stand for here?

OK. Watch the units, they're not quite correct here. With the units corrected, what useful information is this giving you?

The d is for delta. As in delta T change in temperature. When dividing M and ρ it seems as though grams cancels out and you're left with 1/cm-3*mol. If i instead divide ρ by M we are left with cm-3*mol which is V x n. I don't see where this can be put into the formula though, is there a formula I'm missing?
 
john mcgrain said:
The d is for delta. As in delta T change in temperature.
Why do you want to use a temperature change? Are you trying to determine a change in energy?

When dividing M and ρ it seems as though grams cancels out and you're left with 1/cm-3*mol.
OK. Note the negative power on cm. What would the units look like if you rewrote it with the cm part in the numerator?
 
Have you considered using the ideal gas law to get the temperature? From the ideal gas law, how is mass density ##\rho## related to P, M, R, and T?
 

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