Calculating Ultimate Tensile Strength from Stress-Strain Curve

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the ultimate tensile strength (UTS) from a given stress-strain curve for a material, specifically focusing on the implications of necking and yield strength. The context is primarily homework-related, with participants exploring the theoretical aspects of stress-strain relationships in materials.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a stress-strain relationship and claims the UTS is 116,700 psi, expressing confusion about the underlying concepts.
  • Another participant questions whether the provided relationship applies after the yield point, indicating a need for clarification on the material's behavior post-yield.
  • A participant confirms that the relationship is valid after necking begins but notes the absence of Young's modulus in the provided information.
  • There is a discussion about a solution provided by a teacher, with one participant expressing confusion over the inclusion of yield strength in the calculation and questioning its source.
  • One participant suggests that if the material was unloaded after necking, the true strain would represent permanent strain, indicating a misunderstanding of the loading conditions.
  • Another participant asserts that the problem does not mention loading and unloading, suggesting a single continuous stress-strain relationship is assumed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the role of yield strength in the calculation and whether the stress-strain relationship applies after yielding. There is no consensus on how to interpret the problem or the assumptions involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the problem statement, particularly the lack of information about yield strength and Young's modulus, which complicates the analysis. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of the stress-strain behavior of the material.

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Homework Statement



What is the ultimate tensile strength if necking begins at a true strain = 0.25 in a material whose stress strain curve obeys the relation:
sigma=120000(epsilon)^1/2 psi?

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The Attempt at a Solution




I'm kind of stumped on this. I really doesn't understand what's going on, but I know the answer is 116,700 psi.
 
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Is this the relationship after the yield point, i.e. does this apply after the material has yielded, and therefore has elastic strain of YS/E?
 
yes, after necking begins. however, this is the only information i was provided with, no young's mod.
 
this is the solution my teacher handed out in class today, but when i asked him about adding the yield strength, he forgot why he added it.

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TRANSLATE INTO S:
if volume is constant,
sigma=l/a=(V(0)L)*s/VL(0))

sigma=(L/L(0))s
ln(L/L(0))=E or L/L(0)=e^0.25

sigma(at UTS)=60000=se^0.25
s=60000*e^/0.25=46800 psi

s(uts)=s+s(yield)=46800+70000 psi=116800 psi

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This solution cleared nothing up for me. I understand up to the very last line...that all makes sense to me. But why does he add yield strength, and where the hell does he get that value of yield strength from? It's not given in the problem, so I assume there is an easy way to calculate it from the information given?
I know this problem is really confusing, but if anyone can offer an explanation of the yield strength and where it came from, I'd appreciate it.
 
If the material was loaded to necking and then unloaded, the measured true strain is the the permanent strain, since the material unloads along a diagonal parallel with the elastic line.

The stress-strain relationship appears to be just the stress-strain relationship for plasic deformation beyond yield.
 
the problem mentions nothing about loading and unloading, so i assume it was one constant stress/strain graph though?
 

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