Calculating Velocity & Field Strength of Gas: Help Needed!

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The discussion focuses on calculating the velocity and magnetic field strength of gas based on spectral line emissions from nickel. The initial calculation for gas velocity using the Doppler effect formula yields a result of 5836.03 m/s, but there are concerns about the accuracy of the equations used. The magnetic field strength calculated at 28.76 Tesla appears excessively high, indicating potential errors in the formula applied. Suggestions include using more precise equations and referencing the Zeeman effect for accurate magnetic field calculations. The importance of using the center wavelength for Doppler calculations is also emphasized.
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Homework Statement
From near to the centre of the solar disc, observations of Ni I line emission (which has rest wavelength of 676.800 nm) are analysed at two points, X and Y. At point X the observations show a triple-peaked spectral line with components at 676.813, 676.820 and 676.827 nm. The central component is not as bright as those at the longer and shorter wavelengths.

Measurements at a point Y around 10,000 km away from X on the Sun’s surface show three components at 676.816, 676.819 and 676.822. In this case, the central component is brighter than the components at longer and shorter wavelengths.

a. For each point X and Y determine the velocity of the gas containing the nickel relative to the observer.
b. Calculate the magnetic field strength at each point X and Y.
Relevant Equations
v=c (λ-λ0)/λ0

B=v/(c*λ)
For the first calculation of the velocity of the gas I use the first equation and this converted in meter would be look like this (first value as an example)

v=299792458 m/s * (6.76813x10^-7-6.768x10^-7)/6.768x10^-7 =5836.03m/s or 0.0019c
this was the velocity of the gas for the first spectral line at 676.813nm

the next I´m not sure if it is correct, to calculate the field strength in Tesla with the second formula

B=5836.03m/s / 299792458m/s * 6.67813x10^-7 m = 28.76 Tesla

With my formula the calculated field strength is much to high ... I´m not sure where the error lies

I would be glad to get some help in this case, or a response if I did it correctly
 
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Barbequeman said:
Homework Statement:: From near to the centre of the solar disc, observations of Ni I line emission (which has rest wavelength of 676.800 nm) are analysed at two points, X and Y. At point X the observations show a triple-peaked spectral line with components at 676.813, 676.820 and 676.827 nm. The central component is not as bright as those at the longer and shorter wavelengths.

Measurements at a point Y around 10,000 km away from X on the Sun’s surface show three components at 676.816, 676.819 and 676.822. In this case, the central component is brighter than the components at longer and shorter wavelengths.

a. For each point X and Y determine the velocity of the gas containing the nickel relative to the observer.
b. Calculate the magnetic field strength at each point X and Y.
Relevant Equations:: v=c (λ-λ0)/λ0

B=v/(c*λ)

For the first calculation of the velocity of the gas I use the first equation and this converted in meter would be look like this (first value as an example)

v=299792458 m/s * (6.76813x10^-7-6.768x10^-7)/6.768x10^-7 =5836.03m/s or 0.0019c
this was the velocity of the gas for the first spectral line at 676.813nm

the next I´m not sure if it is correct, to calculate the field strength in Tesla with the second formula

B=5836.03m/s / 299792458m/s * 6.67813x10^-7 m = 28.76 Tesla

With my formula the calculated field strength is much to high ... I´m not sure where the error lies

I would be glad to get some help in this case, or a response if I did it correctly
May I inquire where you obtained your relevant equations?

Your first equation, v=c (λ-λ0)/λ0, while it might function as a rough approximation for relatively slow velocities, it is not exact. It's not precise enough for the number of significant figures that you used.

You might wish to use more precise equations. I would go here for a starting point:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Relativ/reldop2.html

With some algebra, you can solve the velocity by manipulating:
Z = \sqrt{\frac{1 + \beta}{1 - \beta}} - 1,
where,
Z = \frac{\lambda - \lambda_0}{\lambda_0},
and
\beta = \frac{v}{c}

Your second equation, B=v/(c*λ), is obviously incorrect. It doesn't have the right dimensions. According to the equation, the dimensions of magnetic field are [\mathrm{length^{-1}}] which is incorrect.

For that, you might want to start researching the "Zeeman effect."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeeman_effect
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/quantum/zeeman.html

I don't know which formula to use, but should relate to the Zeeman effect some way or another.

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Regarding your attempted solution for the Doppler effect, you should be using the center wavelength, not one of the splits.
 
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