Calculating Work and Flux Using Green's Theorem: A Square Example

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The discussion revolves around the application of Green's Theorem to calculate work and flux for a vector field defined over a square region in the xy-plane. Participants explore the mathematical steps involved in the calculations and discuss notational preferences.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents calculations for work and flux using Green's Theorem, arriving at results of 1/2 for work and 2 for flux.
  • Another participant agrees with the calculations and suggests a notational preference for expressing the line integral.
  • There is a clarification regarding the normal vector used in the work calculation, with participants confirming that it is taken as $\hat{k}$ since the square lies in the xy-plane.

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Participants generally agree on the correctness of the calculations presented, but there are discussions about notation and the choice of the normal vector.

Contextual Notes

There may be assumptions regarding the definitions of work and flux in the context of Green's Theorem that are not explicitly stated. The discussion does not resolve any potential nuances in the application of the theorem.

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Hey! :o

"Use the Green's Theorem to calculate the work and the flux for the closed anti-clockwise direction that consists of the square which is determined by the lines $x=0$, $x=1$, $y=0$ and $y=1$ if $\overrightarrow{F}=2xy\hat{\imath}+3x^2y\hat{ \jmath }$."I have done the following:

$$\text{Work }: \oint_C{\overrightarrow{F}}dR=\int \int_R {\nabla \times \overrightarrow{F} \cdot \hat{n}}dA=\iint_R {\nabla \times \overrightarrow{F} \cdot \hat{k}}dA=\iint_R {(6xy-2x)}dA=\int_0^1 \int_0^1(6xy-2x)dxdy=\int_0^1(3y-1)dy=\frac{1}{2}$$

$$\text{Flux }: \oint_C{\overrightarrow{F} \cdot \hat{n}}ds=\iint_R{\nabla \cdot \overrightarrow{F}}dA=\iint_R{(2y+3x^2)}dA=\int_0^1 \int_0^1{(2y+3x^2)}dxdy=\int_0^1{(2y+1)}dy=2$$

Is this correct?
 
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mathmari said:
Hey! :o

"Use the Green's Theorem to calculate the work and the flux for the closed anti-clockwise direction that consists of the square which is determined by the lines $x=0$, $x=1$, $y=0$ and $y=1$ if $\overrightarrow{F}=2xy\hat{\imath}+3x^2y\hat{ \jmath }$."I have done the following:

$$\text{Work }: \oint_C{\overrightarrow{F}}dR=\int \int_R {\nabla \times \overrightarrow{F} \cdot \hat{n}}dA=\iint_R {\nabla \times \overrightarrow{F} \cdot \hat{k}}dA=\iint_R {(6xy-2x)}dA=\int_0^1 \int_0^1(6xy-2x)dxdy=\int_0^1(3y-1)dy=\frac{1}{2}$$

$$\text{Flux }: \oint_C{\overrightarrow{F} \cdot \hat{n}}ds=\iint_R{\nabla \cdot \overrightarrow{F}}dA=\iint_R{(2y+3x^2)}dA=\int_0^1 \int_0^1{(2y+3x^2)}dxdy=\int_0^1{(2y+1)}dy=2$$

Is this correct?

Yep. All correct! (Happy)Btw, I would write $$\oint_C{\overrightarrow{F}} \cdot d\vec R$$ or $$\oint_C{\overrightarrow{F}} \cdot \hat c dR$$ to be notationally correct.
 
I like Serena said:
Yep. All correct! (Happy)

Great! (Yes)

I like Serena said:
Btw, I would write $$\oint_C{\overrightarrow{F}} \cdot d\vec R$$ or $$\oint_C{\overrightarrow{F}} \cdot \hat c dR$$ to be notationally correct.

Ok! Thank you! (Smirk)
 
At the calculation of work, we took $\hat{n}=\hat{k}$, because the square is at the plane $xy$, right?
 
mathmari said:
At the calculation of work, we took $\hat{n}=\hat{k}$, because the square is at the plane $xy$, right?

Yes.
 
I like Serena said:
Yes.

Ok!
 

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