Calculating Work Done in Inflating a Square Balloon

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done in inflating a square balloon, specifically focusing on the changes in pressure and volume as the side length of the balloon increases from 0.25m to 0.5m. The problem involves understanding the relationship between internal pressure, external atmospheric pressure, and the work done during the inflation process.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the integral of pressure with respect to volume as a method for calculating work done. Questions arise regarding the relevance of external pressure (p0) in different parts of the problem and how to interpret the work done by the internal air versus the balloon itself.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the interpretation of the problem and the role of different pressures in the calculations. There is ongoing exploration of how to approach the work done in parts (a) and (b) of the question, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion in the wording of the problem, particularly regarding whether it refers to work or energy and the implications of inflating versus deflating the balloon. Clarifications on these points are seen as necessary for further progress.

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Homework Statement



Hi,

A question on work done in inflating a square balloon.

A square-shaped balloon has a side length L=0.25m, and its volume is given by V=L^3. It contains air at pressure 1.5 bar. The side length L increases to L=0.5m during heat transfer. During this process, the internal pressure p is found to be proportional to 1/L (as p*V^(1/3) = constant). The process takes place at ground level in a standard atmosphere at temperature T0=288K and pressure p0=1 bar.

(a) Determine the value for work done by the system of internal air on the balloon.

(b) Calculate the work done by the balloon during the process (atmospheric p0=1bar).

Homework Equations



Work done = integral of p*dv (see below).

The Attempt at a Solution



I just wanted some pointers on the following. Work done = integral of p*dv. But I don't know if p0 would be taken into account, and if so, how that would be incorporated into the equation? My second question is that, how would the calculation differ between (a) and (b)?

Thanks.
 
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The question is too confusing to admit of an answer.

It asks about inflating the balloon, yet the balloon is being deflated, not inflated.

'energy done in inflating a square balloon.' is meaningless. Is it supposed to say 'work' rather than energy? If so then we need to know work done by what or on what, as a multitude of different interpretations are possible.

What is 'displacement work', and on what, or by what is it being done?

Once the answers to those questions are clarified, answering the question, including determining whether p0 is relevant, should become easy.
 
Thanks, I have clarified the question.
 
I have clarified the question.
 
For (a) you do not use p0, because the work is the integral of the pressure applied by the internal air to the balloon, over the increments in volume.
For (b) you do use p0 because there is no constraint on what system the balloon is working on. So we take account of the force applied by the balloon both to the external and internal gases. So you net the two to get a net pressure on the balloon and integrate that over the change in volume.
 
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Thank you andrewkirk.
 

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