Calculation of limit. L'Hopital's rule

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The problem involves evaluating the limit of the expression lim(x->0) x cot(x), which falls under the subject area of calculus, specifically the evaluation of limits and the application of L'Hopital's rule.

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  • Participants discuss the application of L'Hopital's rule and express confusion regarding the repeated appearance of sin(x) in the denominator when attempting to derive the limit. There are attempts to manipulate the expression and questions about the conditions under which L'Hopital's rule is applicable.

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Some participants have provided insights into the conditions for applying L'Hopital's rule and have clarified misconceptions about the derivative process. There is acknowledgment of the challenges faced in evaluating the limit, and participants are seeking further hints or guidance.

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There is mention of a well-known limit involving sin(x) and x, which may be relevant to the discussion. Participants also note the importance of adhering to the homework template in future posts.

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Problem: Evaluate lim(x->0) x cotx

My attempt:
lim(x->0) x cotx = lim(x->0) x cosx / sinx = lim(x->0) cosx * lim(x->0) x / sinx = 1 * lim(x->0) x / sinx = lim(x->0) x / sinx

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I know I must/can use L'Hopital's rule to evaluate indeterminate limits, but no matter how many times I derive x/sinx I will always have sinx (in some power) in denominator.

I also tried different grouping of variables but still same scenario.

maybe I don't see something so even little hint would be nice...
 
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EEristavi said:
Problem: Evaluate lim(x->0) x cotx

My attempt:
lim(x->0) x cotx = lim(x->0) x cosx / sinx = lim(x->0) cosx * lim(x->0) x / sinx = 1 * lim(x->0) x / sinx = lim(x->0) x / sinx
##\lim_{x \to 0} \frac{\sin(x)}x## is a well-known limit that should be shown in your calculus textbook. It's also a limit that can be obtained using L'Hopital.
EEristavi said:
P.S.
I know I must/can use L'Hopital's rule to evaluate indeterminate limits, but no matter how many times I derive x/sinx I will always have sinx (in some power) in denominator.
L'Hopital's Rule doesn't apply to all indeterminate limits, just those of the forms ##[\frac 0 0]## or ##[\pm \frac \infty \infty]##. Even then, it sometimes doesn't work, as it just gets you back to the same limit you started with.
EEristavi said:
I also tried different grouping of variables but still same scenario.

maybe I don't see something so even little hint would be nice...

BTW, in future posts, please don't delete the Homework Template.
 
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L'Hopital's rule says ##\lim_{x -> a} \frac{f(x)}{g(x)} = \lim_{x -> a} \frac{f'(x)}{g'(x)}## if both ##f(x)## and ##g(x)## tend either to ##0## or ##\infty## as ##x -> a##. Maybe you're using the quotient rule for derivatives which is wrong, because that's not what the rule says.
 
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