Calculus and analysis at the same time

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The discussion centers on the challenges of reviewing calculus after a year away from high school math, particularly in light of a desire to learn analysis through Zorich's "Analysis I." The individual expresses concerns about forgetting calculus techniques and seeks advice on whether to study Zorich alongside Piskunov's calculus book or focus solely on Zorich. There is a consensus that while Zorich covers calculus from a rigorous perspective, it may not provide enough computational practice on its own. Therefore, studying both Zorich and Piskunov concurrently is recommended to ensure a solid understanding of both the theoretical and computational aspects of calculus. The individual is motivated to solidify their calculus skills before starting university, emphasizing the importance of a comprehensive approach to learning both subjects.
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Hello, I dropped out of high school a year ago where I did up to calculus II as it's called in USA. This was done using the computational method so we didn't learn any proof. But I feel like I matured as a mathematician and tried reading Zorich's Analysis I (found online) which I'm not finding too difficult. However downside is that I forgot much of the calculus I learned in high school. I am thinking of the best way to review this. I didn't learn it well at the time and only went to the lessons so I only have a vague recollection of the techniques and methods and can't solve simple calculus problems like finding solid of revolution due to forgetting everything (I could do them at the time though). I am thinking of learning calculus again from scratch to aquaint with the techniques again and learn it in a logically connected exposition in one go, because when I learned it before I only went to lessons and didn't have any good but at the same time I enjoy Zorich's book and want to continue to learn the theory behind the calculus. Is it possible to learn both at the same time? I like the russian style of book so I want to read Piskunov's integral and differential calculus with Zorich and maybe use Demidovich's book (problem in analysis) for problems.

My only worry is that if I don't learn calculus again properly and just learn analysis from Zorich's book I won't be able to solve simple computational calculus problems. But I'm not sure if this is true and would appreciate advice. Will analysis teach my computational methods like calculus, while giving the theory at the same time? Here is Zorich's book so you can see: http://math.univ-lyon1.fr/~okra/2011-MathIV/Zorich1.pdf Given my situation should I just learn Zorich or is it good idea to do Piskunov at the same time? Also I will start university in 2016 as I applied for deferred entry this year because I wanted to learn analysis and revise my high school knowledge this year before starting. I know high school math well except for calculus which I mostly forgot as I said.

Please recommend the best way to proceed. My goals are to learn calculus properly from scratch with all the computations and how to calculate integrals, etc., and at the same time learn analysis because I find it enjoyable from Zorich's book.

Thank you, I hope you understand my question
 
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Try the Coursera online courses called Calculus 1 and Calculus 2 out of Ohio State.

https://www.coursera.org/learn/calculus1
 
Dr. Courtney said:
Try the Coursera online courses called Calculus 1 and Calculus 2 out of Ohio State.

https://www.coursera.org/learn/calculus1
Hello, thanks for your suggestion but I already chose what to study and am looking for advice on how I should study them (Piskunov and Zorich) not what to study. Should I do Piskunov or will Zorich alone teach me computational and theory at the same time by itself

http://math.univ-lyon1.fr/~okra/2011-MathIV/Zorich1.pdf
 
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letters said:
ill Zorich alone teach me computational and theory at the same time by itself

No.
 
micromass said:
No.
Ok thanks. So I should read them at the same time, or Piskunov first? Or maybe you can advise if it would be ok to carry on with Zorich and then use Piskunov? I mean I doubt I will find calculus hard after analysis, and I can definitely read Zorich now as I've found it fun so far and not too difficult. Btw Zorich isn't like other analysis texts (e.g. Rudin). It assumes you don't know differnetial and integral calculus well and covers it in Volume 1 from a rigorous perspective, as well as multivariable differential calculus. Then it does proper analysis in volume 2 and goes even further than Rudin as I heard. So in that sense it's basically Spivak+an easier version of Rudin (easier to read that is, but definitely more comprehensive than Rudin) bundled up into one. If you read the preface please advise: http://math.univ-lyon1.fr/~okra/2011-MathIV/Zorich1.pdf

It covers many applications to physics as well which I am interested in. It is the best analysis book in my opinion, You can read the good review of it from VI Arnold on the back cover.
 
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If you don't find Zorich too hard, then you can read it concurrently with a calculus book.
 
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