Can a charged particle be in uniform motion in reality?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of whether a charged particle can achieve uniform motion in reality, particularly in the context of external electric and magnetic fields. Participants explore the implications of uniform motion in magnetostatics and the conditions under which a charged particle can transition to uniform motion.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that a charged particle at rest cannot be moved by a magnetic field and will only accelerate under an electric field, raising questions about the nature of uniform motion in this context.
  • Another participant argues that a charged particle already moving in open space, without external fields, can indeed be in uniform motion.
  • A participant seeks clarification on whether a particle initially at rest or accelerating can be transitioned to uniform motion, prompting further discussion on the conditions required for this transition.
  • It is suggested that to achieve uniform motion, a charged particle must first be accelerated and then have the external fields removed.
  • Another participant humorously suggests that the observer could also be accelerated to achieve uniform motion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conditions required for a charged particle to achieve uniform motion, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the implications of uniform motion in relation to the presence or absence of external fields, but the discussion does not resolve the complexities surrounding the definitions and conditions of motion.

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If a charged particle is at rest, external magnetic field cannot move it. If an external electric field is applied, the particle will get accelerated. Now the external magnetic field will exert a force on the particle perpendicular to its motion. This will change the direction of motion of the particle.

However, in magnetostatics, there is a frequent use of uniform motion of charge particle.

Is this "uniform motion" just a hypothetical postulate to formulate the theories or such a motion can really be created?

If a charged particle can really move in uniform linear motion it seems very interesting to know about the forces acting on the particle and how the forces are balanced.
 
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In your example, you have a charged particle "at rest" and then start it moving. Since that requires an acceleration, obviously it cannot be in "uniform motion". But a charged particle that is already moving in open space with no electric or magnetic field will be in uniform motion.
 
Dear Hallsoflvy, I think, I didn't explain the problem properly. If a charge be initially at rest or in acceleration, can it's velocity be changed so that it starts moving with uniform velocity?
 
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If a charge be initially at rest or in acceleration, can it's velocity be changed so that it starts moving with uniform velocity?
How can it start moving with uniform (non-zero) velocity if it's at rest? You can arrange for it to accelerate briefly, then have uniform velocity.

What do you mean by "or in acceleration"? If it's accelerating, and you stop the acceleration (by removing the fields), then it will continue with uniform velocity.
 
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Yes, Doc Al I agree with you. To make a charge move with uniform velocity, it first needs to be accelerated in electric field and then the field needs to be dropped.
 
Or you, the observer, needs to be accelerated briefly. :-p
 
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