Can a electron gun attract/repel permanent magnet?

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An electron gun cannot attract or repel a permanent magnet due to the significant difference in mass between the two; the electron beam is too small and light to have any substantial effect on the magnet. Instead, the magnet is influenced by the electron beam, which can be deflected by magnetic fields but does not exert enough force to move the magnet itself. While electron beams can interact with magnetic fields, the overall impact on a magnet is negligible. The discussion also touches on the construction of CRTs, clarifying that the electron beam originates from the gun and is directed by coils, not the magnet itself. Ultimately, the interaction between an electron beam and a magnet is minimal and largely theoretical.
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Can it do such a thing or are the particles too small ? If it is possible can I take the electron gun out my cry is you AA batteries?
 
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dan020350 said:
Can it do such a thing or are the particles too small ? If it is possible can I take the electron gun out my cry is you AA batteries?

Er... say that again? Especially the "... take the electron gun out my cry is you AA batteries..."

An electron beam doesn't have as much "mass" or weight as a typical magnet. If anything, the electron beam is the one that gets affected by the magnet, with very little effect on the magnet due to the electron beam.

So to answer your question: No.

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
Er... say that again? Especially the "... take the electron gun out my cry is you AA batteries..."

An electron beam doesn't have as much "mass" or weight as a typical magnet. If anything, the electron beam is the one that gets affected by the magnet, with very little effect on the magnet due to the electron beam.

So to answer your question: No.

Zz.
Sry. It is CRT. What about the toroid? Where the coils are wrap around a circle,!in the middle of the donut isn't that is how the electron beam begins? It repels out the magnet?

But that's for your reponse.
 
The magnet won't feel a thing.
The magnet as a whole is orders upon orders of magnitudes more massive than the electron.
 
dan020350 said:
Can it do such a thing or are the particles too small ? If it is possible can I take the electron gun out my cry is you AA batteries?

I've built a variety of photo-electron guns; the steering system used magnets to deflect the beam; the magnets didn't move when the beam was switched on and off.

If you had a really strong beam - such as the beam from a quasar - then it would be a different story.

You can calculate the magnetic field for any current:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/magcur.html

Then calculate the interaction with the magnet's magnetic field ... that provides the force:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_between_magnets

Then use Newton's second law of motion to determine the acceleration applied to the mass of the magnet. If it is enough to overcome the force of gravity - then it will lift the magnet.

If you solve the general problem for a simple geometry you can then calculate what is required to move a given magnet.
 
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dan020350 said:
Sry. It is CRT. What about the toroid? Where the coils are wrap around a circle,!in the middle of the donut isn't that is how the electron beam begins? It repels out the magnet?

But that's for your reponse.

No, the electron beam begins way back at the gun at the end of the tube where all the connection pins are
The coils that are placed further up the neck of the tube are used to deflect the electron beam so that it scans across the face of the tube as required

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=how+a+crt+works

Dave
 
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On an infinitesimal scale, I would think that the electron beam DOES effect the the magnet. I base this on the fact that attraction and repulsion occur to mutual entities. As the magnet attracts or repels the beam, the force appears to both. the Earth attracts the feather and vice versa. Imperceptibly small, immeasurably so, but it must be so.
 
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