Can a robot be called as Living thing?

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The discussion centers on whether self-replicating robots can be classified as living beings, highlighting that definitions of life vary significantly. Many participants argue that traditional biological criteria, such as the ability to eat, excrete, grow, reproduce, and respond to stimuli, may not apply to mechanical entities. The complexity of defining life is emphasized, with some suggesting that energy consumption and self-reproduction are more fundamental criteria. Thought experiments, such as the implications of prosthetic limbs and the Ship of Theseus, illustrate the challenges in distinguishing between living and non-living entities. Ultimately, the conversation reveals that the definition of life may need refinement to accommodate both biological and potential robotic forms of existence.
  • #101
DanP said:
Ah eugenics :P Hitler was a big fan.

Everyone is a fan in theory, it's the practice that makes monsters.
 
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  • #102
we are not defining alive with "what if's".
 
  • #103
Grimstone said:
we are not defining alive with "what if's".

We define everything in those terms.
 
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I do not agree. We do not define knowledge with "what it" we define it with facts, proven and re-creatable data that is as close to irrefutable as possible.

the "what ifs" are what causes science to look for the facts to prove or disprove it.

The truth is. we need the What ifs, they help the sturdy minded, non free thinking, humans to look outside the box.
 
  • #105
Grimstone said:
I do not agree. We do not define knowledge with "what it" we define it with facts, proven and re-creatable data that is as close to irrefutable as possible.

the "what ifs" are what causes science to look for the facts to prove or disprove it.

The truth is. we need the What ifs, they help the sturdy minded, non free thinking, humans to look outside the box.

Then by all means, tell me how you prove an artificial construct for humans to demarcate something that only matters to us?

The truth may be, but we deal with theories, all of which are wrong... and that's not my original thinking there. In a science as far from physics as biology, you begin to tread the waters between science and art.
 
  • #106
nismaratwork said:
Then by all means, tell me how you prove an artificial construct for humans to demarcate something that only matters to us?

The truth may be, but we deal with theories, all of which are wrong... and that's not my original thinking there. In a science as far from physics as biology, you begin to tread the waters between science and art.

I may misunderstand your request to "prove an artificial construct for humans to demarcate something that only matters to us"

In truth I had to look Demarcate up.
if to make a construct set the boundaries we wish, that matter to us. its called programing.
I'm not trying to be a jerk. but i did not want to let a lack of response mean i was mistaken.


What I meant by the "what if" is that we are looking to define what is "alive" and not what if we use bioengineering to blah blah blah. it was opening a road to a different destination.
 
  • #107
Grimstone said:
I may misunderstand your request to "prove an artificial construct for humans to demarcate something that only matters to us"

In truth I had to look Demarcate up.
if to make a construct set the boundaries we wish, that matter to us. its called programing.
I'm not trying to be a jerk. but i did not want to let a lack of response mean i was mistaken.


What I meant by the "what if" is that we are looking to define what is "alive" and not what if we use bioengineering to blah blah blah. it was opening a road to a different destination.

Ahhhh... you mean what do we treat as life, vs. what we treat as a "creation" of ours and a tool?
 

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