Can a Single Chip Handle High Voltage DC Bias for Experimental Use?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using a single chip to handle high voltage DC bias for experimental purposes, specifically targeting the creation of a programmable DC boost converter capable of outputting variable voltages up to 1000VDC. Participants explore existing components and potential solutions for constructing a compact high voltage power supply.

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Main Points Raised

  • Jason O expresses interest in finding a compact chip for a programmable DC boost converter to output variable voltages up to 1000VDC for charging plates in experiments.
  • Jason O mentions a specific programmable power supply chip from UltraVolt but is concerned about its cost and is seeking alternatives.
  • Jason O suggests the possibility of using a small pulse transformer pulsed with a FET at variable frequencies as an alternative method for creating a variable high voltage power supply.
  • Warren asserts that it is unlikely to create an integrated circuit that can handle 1 kV due to breakdown issues associated with such high voltages.
  • Jason O inquires about the types of transformers used in small PCB LCD inverters, indicating interest in their high voltage output capabilities.
  • Jason O later finds another potential solution from EMCO High Voltage and is looking into its pricing.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the availability of a single chip solution for high voltage applications. There are differing views on the feasibility of integrated circuits handling such high voltages, with some participants expressing skepticism.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the limitations of existing components and the challenges associated with high voltage applications, including concerns about cost and the breakdown of materials at high voltages.

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Hello All,

I'm now looking for yet another component for my experiments. I was doing some research into DC boost converters to figure out how to build my own (they seem pretty simple to make). I want to make one that can be programmed from a microcontroller to put out variable voltages from roughly 0 to 1000VDC. The good news is it doesn't have to have any real power output since I am simply charging plates up for some experiments.

I am trying to see if I can find some kind of chip that already fits the bill so that I won't have to build one out of discrete components . And I want it to be as small as possible so I can squish it onto a PCB along with the other circuitry that I have.

So far, the best thing I have come across is this nice programmable power supply chip made from UltraVolt: http://www.ultravolt.com/AASeriesDS.PDF

It is small just like I want but I'm worried that it might cost a bundle. I've e-mailed the company to get a quote for one of these but I have a feeling that I'll be looking elsewhere once they respond :frown:.

Have any of you ever come across anything like this? It seems too simple not to be prepackaged in some kind of way. I'm wondering if there are any HV inverter chips for LCD monitors that may work. I've come across a few setups but they all require external components. If anyone knows of a one-chip solution that may fit the bill, that would be great.

Thanks,
Jason O

P.S. The programmable input does not need to be digital, I can also use a D/A converter to throttle the output voltage.
 
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~sigh~ Yep... I was right... They want $224 a piece for those things! Back to the drawing board... Does anyone out there know of any simple ways to make a variable HV power supply? I'm thinking something like a very small pulse transformer pulsed with a FET at some variable frequency. What do you all think? Or is there a better solution somewhere out there?

Thanks,
Jason O
 
There is no way to make an integrated circuit that can handle 1 kV. Such voltages will break down nearly anything.

- Warren
 
Hmmm... that stinks... Well, would anyone happen to know what kind of transformers they use for those small PCB LCD inverters? I know those output high voltage in a small package.
 
Hey Guys! I think I found EXACTLY what I need here:

http://www.emcohighvoltage.com/CASeries.pdf

Now I'm just trying to find out how much one costs...

- Jason O
 
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