Can a Smaller, More Powerful Microwave Source Replace Triode Amplifiers?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of designing a smaller, more powerful microwave source to replace triode amplifiers, specifically targeting megawatt output levels. The conversation includes technical challenges, design considerations, and speculative applications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their experience with triode amplifiers and the need for a more compact microwave source with megawatt capabilities.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the practicality of building a megawatt microwave generator, questioning the availability of power sources and permits.
  • A participant mentions previous work with kilowatt-range systems and references older Russian magnetrons capable of pulsed outputs approaching one megawatt, but notes limitations in pulse duration.
  • One participant humorously suggests using a powerful microwave source for pest control, but another counters that the proposed method would not be effective due to frequency and pulse duration issues.
  • There is a mention of the challenge of achieving the desired pulse characteristics for the application.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility and practicality of creating a megawatt microwave source, with some skepticism about the necessary resources and technical challenges remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to the size of devices capable of achieving high output and the specific requirements for pulse duration and frequency.

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I have been working with a large number of triodes amplifiers in parallel pulesed by a large thyratron tube. Earlier, many of the triodes decided to arc and melt. The amplifier was huge and I need to replace it. I need a design for a microwave source that is small and more powerful (megawatts).

Thanks!
 
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You want to build a megawatt microwave generator? Really? You have access to a megawatt power source and have the required permits? I find myself highly skeptical.
 
Working on it, the last one wasn't megawatts, it was in the kilowatt range. I have seen older russian magnetrons that are pulsed and approach one megawatt for radar systems, but the pulse is too long. Same problem with the newer systems. I need the pulse to be a single cycle long at 10-11.5 GHz. This will probably never be built because of the size of most devices that would approach that high of an output.
 
Whilst trying to wipe out a particularly large ant nest a few summers ago, I had a whimsical thought about microwaving the whole nest with just such a beast (even if you didn't microwave the actual ants, I thought that the steam generated would at least autoclave the nest).

Actually, a regular microwave would probably be better since it's probably more about the energy delivered, rather than the power.
 
Funny thought lol :P

That wouldn't work, it isn't nearly enough, wrong frequency, ant the pulses must be only half to one cycle long each. It is a challenge.
 
Closing thread as discussion of dangerous activity.
 

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