Can a Voltmeter Measure the Voltage Drop Across Resistors in a Parallel Circuit?

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The discussion revolves around measuring voltage drops across resistors in a parallel circuit using a voltmeter. Participants are exploring the implications of voltage readings in relation to the circuit diagram provided.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to confirm the interpretation of voltage readings in the circuit, questioning whether the given voltage represents a drop in potential or a difference between two points. There are discussions about how voltage behaves in parallel circuits and the role of the voltmeter in measuring potential differences.

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Several participants have provided insights into the nature of voltage and its measurement, with some clarifying that voltage does not split like current does. The conversation is ongoing, with multiple interpretations being explored regarding the readings on the voltmeter and the behavior of voltage in the circuit.

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There is mention of a specific circuit diagram that is referenced but not visible in the thread. Participants are also discussing the implications of the voltmeter's resistance on the overall circuit behavior, indicating a level of complexity in the problem setup.

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Problem statement
What would the voltmeter on the parallel circurt read? In the diagram.

Revelant equations :
V=IR

Attempt at solution:

Just wanted to confirm a fact : the 10 V given in the circurt drawing would be the drop in potential meaning that it lost 10 V so the potential energy moving out of the resistor would be 8, right? Or would it meant that it dropped from 18 to 10?

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Coco12 said:
Problem statement
What would the voltmeter on the parallel circurt read? In the diagram.
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This is the diagram.
 
Hi Coco12! :smile:

(never first-answer your own thread, it takes you off the Unanswered list … use the EDIT button instead! :wink:)
Coco12 said:
Just wanted to confirm a fact : the 10 V given in the circurt drawing would be the drop in potential meaning that it lost 10 V so the potential energy moving out of the resistor would be 8, right? Or would it meant that it dropped from 18 to 10?

(I've never seen a diagram like this before … when you buy a resistor in the shop, it's marked in ohms, not in volts! :rolleyes: but anyway …)

Yes, i think you're correct …

the clue is that they add up to 18 …

each marked voltage is the voltage drop across that component, ie voltage in minus voltage out. :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi Coco12! :smile:

(never first-answer your own thread, it takes you off the Unanswered list … use the EDIT button instead! :wink:)(I've never seen a diagram like this before … when you buy a resistor in the shop, it's marked in ohms, not in volts! :rolleyes: but anyway …)

Yes, i think you're correct …

the clue is that they add up to 18 …

each marked voltage is the voltage drop across that component, ie voltage in minus voltage out

So is 10 V the voltage moving through the resistor ? Would the voltmeter read 5?
 
Hi Coco12! :smile:
Coco12 said:
So is 10 V the voltage moving through the resistor ?

current moves through things …

the current going in is the same as the current coming out​

voltage doesn't move through things, voltage just is

(voltage is electric potential, it's just like gravitational potential per mass)

10V is the difference in electric potential (voltage) between the first strech of wire and the second

Would the voltmeter read 5?

(why 5 ? :confused:)

the voltmeter is attached between the first two resistors, and between the third resistor and the battery

it measures the electric potential difference (the voltage drop) between those two points :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi Coco12! :smile:current moves through things …
the current going in is the same as the current coming out​
voltage doesn't move through things, voltage just is
(voltage is electric potential, it's just like gravitational potential per mass)
10V is the difference in electric potential (voltage) between the first strech of wire and the second

(why 5 ? :confused:)
the voltmeter is attached between the first two resistors, and between the third resistor and the battery
it measures the electric potential difference (the voltage drop) between those two points :wink:
The second stretch of wire has a voltage of 8 then. Between those two points, the voltmeter would read 8.
 
Coco12 said:
The second stretch of wire has a voltage of 8 then. Between those two points, the voltmeter would read 8.

yes, the voltmeter is attached at 8V above the level of the battery, and at 0V, difference = 8V :smile:

(it would be better if you said the second stretch of wire has "a difference in voltage", or "a voltage drop")
 
Thank you tiny tim I understand it now. I was thinking that the voltage would separate as there is an additional pathway for the circurt therefore the voltmeter would read 3 A but I guess that would only apply to current splitting up and reconvening. Voltmeter is used to calculate the difference in potential energy not the amount flowing through it right?
 
Coco12 said:
I was thinking that the voltage would separate as there is an additional pathway for the circurt therefore the voltmeter would read 3 A but I guess that would only apply to current splitting up and reconvening.

the current separates at a junction, the voltage doesn't

the voltage drop across the two resistors is exactly the same as the voltage drop across the voltmeter (the voltage difference between two points is independent of the path taken, just as the gravitational potential difference is independent of the path taken)

(a voltmeter usually has a very high resistance, so that nearly all the current continues through the original circuit, and only a tiny current goes through the voltmeter itself

technically, the resistance of the voltmeter is in parallel to the two resistors, so it will decrease the total resistance slightly, which will mean a slightly higher voltage drop through the first resistor, and a slightly lower one through the other two … but the error is less than the accuracy of the voltmeter itself)
Voltmeter is used to calculate the difference in potential energy not the amount flowing through it right?

yes :smile:
 

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