Can Absolute Value Property be Proven for Real Numbers x and y?

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The discussion centers on proving the absolute value property for real numbers, specifically that |x+y| ≤ |x| + |y|. The user struggles with the case where x and y have different signs, particularly questioning how x - y can be greater than x + y. They present two subcases for when x + y is non-negative and when it is negative, expressing confusion about the inequalities involved. Other participants suggest testing specific values to clarify the relationship between x - y and x + y. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the properties of absolute values in different scenarios.
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Homework Statement


Prove that for every two real numbers x and y
##|x+y| \leq |x| + |y| ##

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The Attempt at a Solution



There are three cases. The easiest ones is when they are both positive and negative.
The third one I have problems with.
The numbers have different sign. Say x>0 and y<0
Divide this into two subcases:
case 3.1
## x+y \geq 0#### |x| +|y| = x+(-y) = x-y##
Now, so far so good, but my book states the following.
## |x| +|y| = x+(-y) = x-y > x+y = |x+y|##
How is it possible that x-y be ever greater than x+y?

case 3.2
## x+y < 0 ##
This one is easy too.
 
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knowLittle said:
How is it possible that x-y be ever greater than x+y?

If -y &gt; y, so that 0 &gt; 2y, ie. y &lt; 0.
 
## -y > y ## would be false even if ## y<0##. They would be equal not greater than each other.

I don't see the connection to the proof. Thanks for trying.
 
knowLittle said:
## -y > y ## would be false even if ## y<0##. They would be equal not greater than each other.

Let y = -1. Do you agree that -y = -(-1) = 1 &gt; -1 = y?
 
knowLittle said:

Homework Statement


Prove that for every two real numbers x and y
##|x+y| \leq |x| + |y| ##


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



There are three cases. The easiest ones is when they are both positive and negative.
The third one I have problems with.
The numbers have different sign. Say x>0 and y<0
Divide this into two subcases:
case 3.1
## x+y \geq 0##


## |x| +|y| = x+(-y) = x-y##
Now, so far so good, but my book states the following.
## |x| +|y| = x+(-y) = x-y > x+y = |x+y|##
How is it possible that x-y be ever greater than x+y?

case 3.2
## x+y < 0 ##
This one is easy too.

"How is it possible that x-y be ever greater than x+y?" Try x = 1 and y = -1. What is x-y? What is x+y?
 
Thank you, I was confused.
 
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