Can Certain Gases Diminish the Greenhouse Effect?

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The discussion centers on the greenhouse effect and the role of various gases. While gases like water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane, and ozone contribute to the greenhouse effect, the conversation explores whether any gases can diminish it. It is noted that water vapor, particularly in the form of clouds, effectively reflects sunlight back into space, reducing heat absorption. The conversation identifies sulfate aerosols as a potential negative greenhouse gas, as they can nucleate clouds and increase albedo, thereby reflecting more sunlight. Sulfur dioxide (SO2) and dimethyl sulfide are mentioned as precursor gases that lead to the formation of sulfate aerosols. Additionally, there is a brief mention of the production of sulfate aerosols by oceanic microbes. The discussion also touches on a laboratory reaction between hydrogen and oxygen, which produces water immediately, albeit in a vigorous manner.
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Whereas atmospheric water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane and ozone contribute to the greenhouse effect, is there any gas which diminishes it?
 
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Not sure it is really possible for there to be a negative greenhouse gas. A gas either absorbs IR or it doesn't!
 
Water vapor, aka clouds, reflect light from the sun back into outer space rather effectively.
 
Topher925 said:
Water vapor, aka clouds, reflect light from the sun back into outer space rather effectively.
...and back to earth, though clouds are not technically "water vapor".

The reason water vapor makes for a good greenhouse gas is that it is transparent to visible light but not very transparent to IR, so the light goes through the atmosphere and hits the earth, then the heat radiated from the Earth is trapped by the water vapor.
 
Loren Booda said:
Whereas atmospheric water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane and ozone contribute to the greenhouse effect, is there any gas which diminishes it?

Sulfate aerosols do this. They nucleate clouds in an atmosphere that also contains water vapor. Therefore, I believe that SO2 is the gas you are looking for. Dimethyl sulfide is another one. Both of these gases are precursor gases to a sulfate aerosol that condenses clouds and increases albedo.
 
chemisttree said:
Sulfate aerosols do this. They nucleate clouds in an atmosphere that also contains water vapor. Therefore, I believe that SO2 is the gas you are looking for. Dimethyl sulfide is another one. Both of these gases are precursor gases to a sulfate aerosol that condenses clouds and increases albedo.
Aren't some sulfate aerosols products of oceanic microbes?
 
Loren Booda said:
Aren't some sulfate aerosols products of oceanic microbes?

Dimethyl sulfide is ...
 
Topher925 said:
Water vapor, aka clouds, reflect light from the sun back into outer space rather effectively.

thank you for your message
 
could i get water immedietly if i react hydrogen with oxygen in laboratory?
 
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Water is a product of this reaction, so in a way yes - you have it immediately. Fast and loud.

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Borek said:
Water is a product of this reaction, so in a way yes - you have it immediately. Fast and loud.

...and a little bit on the warm side for most people's tastes.
 

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