Can context and culture influence how we see colors?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the influence of context and culture on color perception, particularly whether physical properties of objects can be altered to change their perceived color. Participants examine both the scientific principles of color reflection and absorption, as well as subjective experiences of color perception.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if it is possible to change the reflection and absorption properties of an object to alter its perceived color, using an apple as an example.
  • Another participant suggests that painting an object is a straightforward way to change its color.
  • There is inquiry into physical methods, such as altering the surface material with chemicals or radiation, to change color absorption without coating.
  • Photochromic dyes and liquid crystals are mentioned as examples of materials that change color with temperature, affecting their absorption and reflection of wavelengths.
  • A participant asserts that color perception is subjective and varies among individuals, referencing a color vision scientist's claim that people may perceive colors differently.
  • Another participant supports the idea that context and culture can influence color perception, citing examples of how individuals might depict the same scene with varying colors.
  • There is a mention of the tristimulus theory of color vision, suggesting that while individual naming of colors may differ, the basic perception of color is consistent among people with normal color vision.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the influence of context and culture on color perception. While some acknowledge the subjective nature of color, others emphasize the consistency of color perception based on scientific principles.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that individual experiences and cultural backgrounds may affect color naming and perception, but the discussion does not resolve the extent to which these factors influence objective color matching in controlled settings.

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hi guys, i just read a passage about colors to our vision
it is a fact that we see an apple being red because it reflects red and absorbs the rest of the colors
so my question is, is it possible to change the amount of reflection and absorption of an object and hence we see it with a different color?
for instance, by changing some conditions, the apple no longer reflects the red color but absorb it while reflecting the yellow color so we see that apple being yellow

gracias:smile:
 
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tutankhamun said:
is it possible to change the amount of reflection and absorption of an object and hence we see it with a different color?
Yes, by painting it for example.
 
haha absolutely i know:wink:
but if there are any physical ways to change the absorption of colors of objects?
 
tutankhamun said:
but if there are any physical ways to change the absorption of colors of objects?
If you don't want to coat it with a different material, then you have to change the surface material of the object itself, with chemicals, radiation etc.
 
okay thanks:)
 
tutankhamun said:
but if there are any physical ways to change the absorption of colors of objects?
There are photochromic dyes, which change colour as you heat them up. (Remember the T shirts and kids' pyjamas?) They absorb different wavelengths at different temperatures. Also, some Liquid Crystals will reflect and transmit different wavelengths at different tem[peratures (remember the Feverscan LC thermometers that we put on kids' heads instead of sticking a normal thermometer in their mouths (or elsewhere`~!)
Here is a terminology problem. The object will reflect and absorb different Wavelengths and, thus alter the colour that we observe. Colour is totally in our head. People happen to agree on what, broadly, to call the various colours and will, again broadly, agree when colours 'match' for two different objects. But all that is subjective and very much a shorthand that our brain uses to assess the spectral content of what the eyes receive.
 
tutankhamun said:
for instance, by changing some conditions, the apple no longer reflects the red color but absorb it while reflecting the yellow color so we see that apple being yellow

Peel it :-)
 
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Colour is totally in our head

+1. It might be possible to make an apple look any colour you want using Hypnosis.

http://www.livescience.com/21275-color-red-blue-scientists.html

Another color vision scientist, Joseph Carroll of the Medical College of Wisconsin, took it one step further: "I think we can say for certain that people don't see the same colors," he told Life's Little Mysteries.

One person's red might be another person's blue and vice versa, the scientists said. You might really see blood as the color someone else calls blue, and the sky as someone else's red. But our individual perceptions don't affect the way the color of blood, or that of the sky, make us feel.
 
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"One person's red might be another person's blue and vice versa, the scientists said. You might really see blood as the color someone else calls blue, and the sky as someone else's red."

It is true that context and culture can cause different people to 'see' things as different colours. If you get people to paint a picture of the Sea from memory, then you can expect a huge range of outcomes, from brown thru green to blue, via grey. Even when given the same scene, you could expect different versions. The same could apply to blood - which actually takes on a fairly wide range of hues.
However, I really doubt that someone with 'normal' colour vision who has been exposed to a normal range of colours in life would not perform pretty much the same way as anyone else in a lab test, using sample swatches of colours, when asked to match them together. Of course, the Names they use for the colours could be very different but that's a different matter.
The tristimulus theory of colour vision is pretty well tested and seems to show that most people see and group the colours they 'appreciate' in pretty much the same way. Colour TV and Photography work pretty successfully using that basic method of analysis and synthesis..
 

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