Can Direct Sums and Subspace Dimensions Determine Vector Space Properties?

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The discussion revolves around properties of vector spaces, specifically focusing on direct sums and subspace dimensions. The original poster presents two problems related to vector space dimensions and their implications on subspaces.

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  • Participants explore the implications of direct sums on subspace dimensions and question how to prove relationships between dimensions of subspaces. There is a focus on using definitions and theorems related to vector space sums and dimensions. Some participants suggest designating bases for the subspaces to aid in the proofs, while others propose alternative approaches that do not involve bases.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and suggestions for tackling the problems. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of definitions and theorems, as well as considerations about the dimensions of the subspaces involved. Multiple perspectives on how to approach the problems are being explored.

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There is a mention of specific conditions such as the dimensions of the vector spaces and subspaces, as well as the assumption that the subspaces are not equal. The original poster seeks clarification on proving certain dimensional relationships, indicating potential gaps in information or understanding.

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1. let V be a vector space, U1,U2,W subspaces.
prove/disprove: if V=U1#U2 (where # is a direct sum) then:
W=(W^U1)#(W^U2) (^ is intersection).
2. let V be a vector space with dimV=n and U,W be subspaces.
prove that if U doesn't equal W and dimU=dimW=n-1 then U+W=V.

for question two, in oreder to prove this i need to show that dim(U+W)=dimV
which bassically means that: dim(U^W)=n-2, but how do i prove this?

for the first question i think it's correct but i don't know how to prove it, anyone has got any hints for me, thanks in advance.
 
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I don't have the time to look at it right now, but it may be useful to use the definitions of the sum of vector spaces, as the theorem which states, for a vector space V and two of its subspaces U1 and U2, dim(U1^U2) + dim(U1+U2)= dimU1 + dimU2.
 
For both problems, start by designating bases for U1 and U2.
For 1, some of those basis vectors will be in V, some not (you will need to show that that if U1 ^ V is not empty, then at least one basis vector of U1 is in V). show that the basis vectors of U1 that are in V, union the basis vectors of U2 that are in V, form a basis for V.

2. let V be a vector space with dimV=n and U,W be subspaces.
prove that if U doesn't equal W and dimU=dimW=n-1 then U+W=V.
Are you assuming that n is not equal to 1? If U and V are not the same, but of the same dimension, each contains a vector not in the other. That vector spans a vector space.
 
I'm going to take the other view - don't pick bases.

2. U+W is a vector subspace of V. It either has dimension n-1, or n. Which?

1. Let f be any projection onto U1, so that 1-f is a projection onto U2. Thus 1=f+(1-f), and f(1-f)=0=(1-f)f. What can you do now?
 

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