Can I get a general function f(m,n)

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How can I get a general function f(m,n) that represents a series of 1 and 0, for example :
1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0...; but also
1,1,0,1,1,0,1,1,0...;
1,1,1,0,1,1,1,0,1...

where m is period and n nth number in certain period. In example two:
m=3 (...1,1,0...) f(3,4)=1

The function must be composed only by elementary function
 
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This might be a little desperate, but Fourier series should do the trick. I do not know if there is any other elementary function that would do the same, and I do not know if you consider Fourier series to be elementary (despite it involving only sine and cosine, which are both considered elementary.)
 


Millennial said:
This might be a little desperate, but Fourier series should do the trick. I do not know if there is any other elementary function that would do the same, ...

oh c'mon.

consider

g(m) = \frac{1}{2} \left( 1 + (-1)^m \right)

for integer m

sure, find a Fourier series that, when sampled at integer values, gives you the values you want. but instead of sines and cosines, use the exponential version derived from Euler's formula:

e^{i \theta} \ = \ \cos(\theta) \ + \ i \sin(\theta)

and

-1 = e^{i \pi}

and

g(x) = \sum_{n=-\infty}^{+\infty} c_n \ e^{i \ n (2 \pi/P) x }

where P is the period of the periodic function

g(x + P) = g(x)

for all x, and c_n are the Fourier coefficients.

but you can start with the simple equation with (-1)^m and imagine how you might put it together to get the gating functions you're looking for.
 
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Emilijo said:
How can I get a general function f(m,n) that represents a series of 1 and 0, for example :
1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0...; but also
1,1,0,1,1,0,1,1,0...;
1,1,1,0,1,1,1,0,1...

where m is period and n nth number in certain period. In example two:
m=3 (...1,1,0...) f(3,4)=1

The function must be composed only by elementary function

$$f(m,n)=\left\{ \begin{array}{rl}
0&n=0\mod m\\
1&\hbox{otherwise}
\end{array}\right.$$
 


LCKurtz said:
$$f(m,n)=\left\{ \begin{array}{rl}
0&n=0\mod m\\
1&\hbox{otherwise}
\end{array}\right.$$
does that count as an "elementary function"? do the mod or floor operators count as elementary functions?
 


LCKurtz said:
$$f(m,n)=\left\{ \begin{array}{rl}
0&n=0\mod m\\
1&\hbox{otherwise}
\end{array}\right.$$

rbj said:
does that count as an "elementary function"? do the mod or floor operators count as elementary functions?

You will have to check with the Elementary Function Arbitration Committee to get a definitive answer.
 


good answer.
 


i think i figured out a possible answer, but it involves the dirac delta function (or more precisely, the dirac comb). the dirac comb is a periodic sequence of equally space delta functions and can be represented as an infinite series. maybe we can construction this thing with the sinc() function:

\ \operatorname{sinc}(x) \ = \ \frac{\sin(\pi x)}{\pi x}

and it has a removable singularity at zero so that

\ \operatorname{sinc}(0) \ = \ \lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin(\pi x)}{\pi x} \ = \ 1

it's also true that the sinc() function is 0 for all non-zero integers. does that count as an "elementary function"? does an infinite sum of these sinc() functions count as an "elementary function"?

if yes, i can assemble a general function. actually, this periodic sinc() function (the infinite sum) can be represented as a Fourier series with a finite number of terms, so i think that's where the answer is.
 


okay, so first we define

\ \operatorname{sinc}(x) \ = \ \frac{\sin(\pi x)}{\pi x}

and then we define this periodic function:

g_m(x) = \sum_{k=-\infty}^{+\infty} \operatorname{sinc}(x - mk)

where m is an integer (and so is k and so is mk). we know that for integer n that

g_m(n) =<br /> \begin{cases}<br /> 1 &amp; \ \ \text{if }n = \text{ any multiple of }m \\<br /> 0 &amp; \ \ \text{if }n = \text{ is any other integer}<br /> \end{cases}

now, i am pretty sure that this is the case:

g_m(x) = \frac{1}{m} \sum_{k=1}^{m} \cos\left( 2 \pi \frac{k x}{m} \right)

even if it isn't, i think that this function has the property we need for when x is an integer n. it is zero for any integer n except when n is a multiple of m. since this is a harmonic series, you can get a closed form expression for it (someone else want to do it)? then subtract this from 1.
 
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\begin{align}<br /> g_m(x) \ &amp;= \ \frac{1}{m} \sum_{k=1}^{m} \cos\left( 2 \pi \frac{k x}{m} \right) \\<br /> &amp;= \ \frac{1}{2m} \sum_{k=1}^{m} e^{ i 2 \pi k x / m} \ + \ \frac{1}{2m} \sum_{k=1}^{m} e^{ -i 2 \pi k x / m} \\<br /> &amp;= \ \frac{e^{ i 2 \pi x / m}}{2m} \sum_{k=0}^{m-1} e^{ i 2 \pi k x / m} \ + \ \frac{e^{ -i 2 \pi x / m}}{2m} \sum_{k=0}^{m-1} e^{ -i 2 \pi k x / m} \\<br /> &amp;= \ \frac{e^{ i 2 \pi x / m}}{2m} \frac{ e^{ i 2 \pi m x / m} - 1}{e^{ i 2 \pi x / m} - 1} \ + \frac{e^{ -i 2 \pi x / m}}{2m} \frac{ e^{ -i 2 \pi m x / m} - 1}{e^{ -i 2 \pi x / m} - 1} \\<br /> &amp;= \ \frac{1}{2m} \frac{ e^{ i 2 \pi x} - 1}{1 - e^{ -i 2 \pi x / m}} \ + \frac{1}{2m} \frac{ e^{ -i 2 \pi x } - 1}{1 - e^{ i 2 \pi x / m}} \\<br /> \end{align}

i'm getting tired, can someone else finish this?
 
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\begin{align}<br /> g_m(x) \ &amp;= \ \frac{1}{2m} \frac{ e^{ i 2 \pi x} - 1}{1 - e^{ -i 2 \pi x / m}} \ + \ \frac{1}{2m} \frac{ e^{ -i 2 \pi x } - 1}{1 - e^{ i 2 \pi x / m}} \\<br /> &amp;= \ \frac{e^{ i \pi x} \ e^{ i \pi x / m}}{2m} \frac{ e^{ i \pi x} - e^{ -i \pi x}}{e^{ i \pi x / m} - e^{ -i \pi x / m}} \ + \ \frac{e^{ -i \pi x} \ e^{ -i \pi x / m}}{2m} \frac{ e^{ -i \pi x} - e^{ i \pi x}}{e^{ -i \pi x / m} - e^{ i \pi x / m}} \\<br /> &amp;= \ \frac{e^{ i \pi (m+1) x / m}}{2m} \frac{ e^{ i \pi x} - e^{ -i \pi x}}{e^{ i \pi x / m} - e^{ -i \pi x / m}} \ + \ \frac{ e^{ -i \pi x (m+1) / m}}{2m} \frac{ e^{ i \pi x} - e^{ -i \pi x}}{e^{ i \pi x / m} - e^{ -i \pi x / m}} \\<br /> &amp;= \ \frac{ e^{ i \pi x} - e^{ -i \pi x}}{e^{ i \pi x / m} - e^{ -i \pi x / m}} \ \left( \frac{e^{ i \pi (m+1) x / m}}{2m} + \ \frac{ e^{ -i \pi x (m+1) / m}}{2m} \right) \\<br /> &amp;= \ \frac{ \sin(\pi x) }{m \sin(\pi x / m)} \ \cos\left(\pi (m+1) x / m \right) \\<br /> &amp;= \ \frac{ \sin(\pi x) }{m \sin(\pi x / m)} \ \cos(\pi x + \pi x / m) \\<br /> &amp;= \ \frac{ \sin(\pi x) }{m \sin(\pi x / m)} \ \left( \cos(\pi x) \cos(\pi x / m) - \sin(\pi x) \sin(\pi x / m) \right) \\<br /> &amp;= \ \frac{ \sin(\pi x) }{m} \ \left( \frac{\cos(\pi x)}{\tan(\pi x / m)} - \sin(\pi x) \right) \\<br /> \end{align}
 
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i see it's that Dirichlet kernel on the left. can someone check out to see that this is 1 for n being a multiple of m and 0 for all other integers?

maybe the bottom two or three equalities does not help us.
 
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