Can I substitute a (2) CES388 Diodes for a RB480K

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The discussion revolves around the substitution of CES388 diodes for RB480K diodes in a sensitive display circuit. Participants explore the implications of using different diode types in terms of their electrical properties and the potential impact on circuit functionality.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the display requires RB480K diodes connected in series and questions the functionality after substituting with CES388 diodes.
  • Another participant requests more information about the circuit and suggests that differences in capacitance and forward voltage drop between the diodes could be causing issues.
  • A participant asserts that while the RB480K diodes are used for voltage reference, they have slightly higher current and capacitance, which may lead to a lower forward bias voltage, but doubts this is the root cause of the problem.
  • The same participant emphasizes the importance of using the correct part, suggesting that while the differences may be minor, it is prudent to use the specified diodes.
  • One participant expresses confidence that the issue may lie elsewhere in the circuit, indicating a potential misunderstanding during installation.

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Participants express differing views on the significance of the diode substitution, with some suggesting that the differences in specifications may not be critical, while others advocate for using the correct part as specified. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact cause of the display malfunction.

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Participants have not provided a schematic or detailed circuit diagram, which may limit the ability to fully diagnose the issue. There are also unresolved questions regarding the specific electrical characteristics that could affect performance.

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Hi All,

I am trying to wire up a fairly sensitive display that calls out for 2 RB480K diodes to be connected in series as a reference (GND C A C A). I was given CES388 diodes as a substitution but since I have installed them the display has not worked. To me, I'm a mechanical engineer, the properties seem fairly similar but I could be missing something as I am not used to doing electrical work. Any help is appreciated. if it helps the display is a US micro products P21301 in SPI mode. Thanks!
 
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show/tell us more about your circuit and where these diodes need to be placed
a schematic would be helpful

it could be that the capacitance and or forward voltage drop differences between the 2 devices is what is making the circuit not work

Dave
 
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Yes. The diodes are used for a voltage reference.

I would go with the right part. I doubt it makes a difference because they are nearly identical, but why worry?

BTW, the Rohm diodes (RB480K) have a slightly higher current and capacitance. That means they will have a slightly lower forward bias voltage for a given current. But the value will be in the mV range. Since the spec calls for that diode pair or a similar one, this is likely not the problem. Still, it could be. So until you get it working, go with the Rohm. Just don't expect that to fix the problem.
 
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Jeff Rosenbury said:
Yes. The diodes are used for a voltage reference.

I would go with the right part. I doubt it makes a difference because they are nearly identical, but why worry?

BTW, the Rohm diodes (RB480K) have a slightly higher current and capacitance. That means they will have a slightly lower forward bias voltage for a given current. But the value will be in the mV range. Since the spec calls for that diode pair or a similar one, this is likely not the problem. Still, it could be. So until you get it working, go with the Rohm. Just don't expect that to fix the problem.

Thanks for the answer! I believe this is the case. I must have messed something else when I put in the diodes. I'll get the correct diodes in as well just to be safe.
 

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