Can Muons Propel Objects in Science Fiction?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of using muons as a means of propulsion in a science fiction context. Participants explore the feasibility and implications of this idea, considering both the scientific principles involved and the creative liberties of fiction writing.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that to achieve harmful speeds with subatomic particles, a particle accelerator is necessary, and questions the practicality of using muons for propulsion instead of a direct particle beam.
  • Another participant points out the challenges of generating muons due to their short lifespan and proposes that creating a fictional particle could be more effective than using real particles with undesirable properties.
  • A humorous suggestion is made to use "Meowons," implying that a fictional element involving tiny cats would be equally scientifically accurate while potentially appealing to readers.
  • A later reply critiques a plot from the film "2012," highlighting misconceptions about neutrinos and their interactions, while also discussing a hypothetical weapon that extracts hydrogen from moisture and uses a proton beam for targeting.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of using muons for propulsion, with some advocating for creative liberties in fiction while others emphasize the scientific challenges. No consensus is reached regarding the best approach to incorporate physics into the narrative.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the short lifespan of muons, the need for particle accelerators, and the speculative nature of using subatomic particles in fictional scenarios. The discussion also touches on misconceptions about particle interactions in popular media.

Who May Find This Useful

Writers interested in incorporating scientific concepts into fiction, particularly in the realms of physics and speculative technology, as well as those curious about the intersection of science and creative storytelling.

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I am a musician, show producer and writer. I have always had a great interest in physics and have tried to do home study on subjects relating to it. I am writing a new book and was thinking about one of my characters using muons to propel an object or an energy wave towards someone to harm or destroy them. Bear in mind, this is a FICTION book and not a wish of mine to truly see. I just wanted to make sure my own physics was sound enough to intelligently utilize this in a science fiction manner. It does not have to be a proven fact that this can be done right now but in a science fiction projected way for FICTION. Also, I just want to increase my knowledge of this wonderful science!
 
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To "push" any subatomic particle to harmful speeds you will need a particle accelerator. Once you have one I'm not sure it matters WHAT subatomic particle you use, they're all deadly if you get them going fast enough.

Using them to push something other than themselves however does not seem like the best idea. Just use a particle beam directly.
 
Muons are hard to make and have a short lifetime.
Why use a real particle with undesirable properties and try and shoehorn it in? Why not make up what you want? Call it the "Dreamcat Effect" and be done with it.
 
It's better to use Meowons. Your book will sell more if it involves tiny cats pushing your spaceship around. In terms of scientific accuracy, it's about the same.
 
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I am a musician, show producer and writer. I have always had a great interest in physics and have tried to do home study on subjects relating to it. I am writing a new book and was thinking about one of my characters using muons to propel an object or an energy wave towards someone to harm or destroy them. Bear in mind, this is a FICTION book and not a wish of mine to truly see. I just wanted to make sure my own physics was sound enough to intelligently utilize this in a science fiction manner. It does not have to be a proven fact that this can be done right now but in a science fiction projected way for FICTION. Also, I just want to increase my knowledge of this wonderful science!
2012 is a great film.
The reason the world is ending is because neutrinos emitted from the sun have “mutated” and are heating up the earths core destabilizing the crust.
Neutrinos do not interact with other particles (readily) with and only have a very small mass so do not really do much let alone heat up the earths core.
Mutation happens to DNA & RNA, molecules NOT particles.

So ,the plot is preposterous but the film was still great.

Hydrogen is abundant, your gun extracts moisture from the air, strips the Hydrogen from water and your nano accelerator beam fires a proton bunch at your target.
 

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