Can Newton's Theory of Gravity Explain Planetary Elliptical Orbits?

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of Newton's theory of gravity to determine the elliptical nature of planet orbits. While not tremendously difficult, it is not as simple as assuming circular orbits. The mechanics book by Kleppner and Kolenkow offers a good derivation of this concept. It is also mentioned that orbits can be parabolic or hyperbolic, and finding allowed orbits from Lagrange's equations of motion may require some work. The conversation ends with a proposed approach using the equation of an ellipse and the unit sphere. It is noted that the trajectory of an object is more than just a set of points, but also includes its position and velocity at every instant.
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Is it difficult to use Newton's theory of gravity for showing that planet's orbits must be elliptical?
 
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Not tremendously difficult, but not nearly as simple as assuming circular orbits. The mechanics book by Kleppner and Kolenkow has a good derivation of this.
 
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They can also be parabolic or hyperbolic, if the planet has a sufficient escape velocity. Finding the allowed orbits from Lagrange's equations of motion may require some work, unless you already know the solution (in which case you can test it by substitution).
 
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I imagined the following approach. The equation of an ellipse is ##x^2/a^2 + y^2/b^2 = 1##. If we define ##\bar{x} = x / a, \bar{y} = y / b## we have ##\bar{x}^2+ \bar{y}^2 = 1## which is the equation of a unit sphere.

Of course that satisfy Newton's equation of gravity and so do ##x^2 / a^2## and ##y^2 / b^2##.
 
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The trajectory of an object is not just a set of points, like a circle on the plane. The object has both a position and velocity at every instant.
 
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1. What causes an elliptical orbit?

An elliptical orbit is caused by the gravitational pull of a central body, such as a star or planet, on an orbiting object. The strength of this pull depends on the mass of the central body and the distance between the two objects.

2. How do elliptical orbits differ from circular orbits?

Elliptical orbits differ from circular orbits in that they are elongated and have a varying distance from the central body. In contrast, circular orbits are perfectly round and have a fixed distance from the central body.

3. What determines the shape of an elliptical orbit?

The shape of an elliptical orbit is determined by the eccentricity, which is a measure of how elongated the orbit is. A higher eccentricity means a more elongated orbit, while a lower eccentricity means a more circular orbit.

4. Can elliptical orbits change over time?

Yes, elliptical orbits can change over time due to various factors such as the gravitational pull of other objects, atmospheric drag, and tidal forces. This can result in the orbit becoming more circular or more elongated.

5. Are all planetary orbits perfectly elliptical?

No, not all planetary orbits are perfectly elliptical. While planets generally follow elliptical orbits, factors such as the gravitational pull of other planets and the shape of their orbits can cause slight deviations from a perfect ellipse.

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