Medical Can Opiates Shape a Future of Enhanced Intelligence and Pain-Free Existence?

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The discussion explores the potential of using opiates, specifically through receptors like MU1 and Kappa1, to create a future where pain is eliminated and pleasure is maximized, raising concerns about the implications of living in a drug-induced state. Critics argue that such a lifestyle would lead to diminished mental capacity and a lack of genuine intellectual gain, likening it to a form of societal control reminiscent of "Brave New World." The conversation also touches on the paradox of opiate use among creative individuals, suggesting that while some have found inspiration through opiates, the broader impact on intelligence and memory could be detrimental. Additionally, there are references to the philosophical debates surrounding the abolition of suffering through advanced technologies, emphasizing that it doesn't have to result in a loss of autonomy or critical thinking. Overall, the thread raises significant ethical questions about the balance between enhanced pleasure and the preservation of cognitive function.
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Using the MU1 and Kappa1 and all those receptors with diacetylmorphine or maybe other opium extracts, could we in the future live in a constantly satisfied, painless existence? Less Pain More Gain, intellectually?
 
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In other words, live in a drug induced stupor. :rolleyes: Gee, who wouldn't want to live in a constant state of diminished mental capacity?
 
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What exactly is the "gain" one would be achieving?
 
Some are dreaming of brain washed people. :rolleyes:
Work to pay their opium, endlessly without any thougth or resistance! The perfect citizens!
 
go figure

Use the opioid receptors to diminish pain and increase pleasure... F.. Gain being, theoretically, more time to think, heh.
 
_You_ might be interested in www.hedweb.org .

For the rest, it's worth noting that beyond the rhetoric, the site actually possesses a vast web of interconnected paper abstracts about pharmacology, etc, that I have found intriguing and useful (mostly as a diving board for further research).

lates,
cotarded.
 
Oh my god, what was the book where they did that? Its classic SF. Maybe it was Brave New World?
 
Bringing down sensory stimuli will diminish intelligence and memory. v_v

Simply seen with people who have eidetic memory.
 
Has it been rigorously shown that it is the introversion in individuals with eidetic memory that stunts their intelligence, as opposed to a mutual biochemical basis? It seems to me something like a naturally lowered threshold for LTP/STP could compromise intelligence by causing false positives in reasoning or predisposing one to digressions into familiar reasoning tracts, if not just fouling the delicate balance of preservation and elimination that is necessary to cull important patterns from noise in learning.
Plenty of intelligent people have been opiate abusers, many used it for inspiration - see Edgar Allan Poe for instance. But I admit I can't readily come up with any mathemeticians who shared the past-time :).

Addressing Cosmo16's mention of Brave New World, hedweb has an excellent series of essays on why abolitionism (as in abolishing sentient suffering, not slavery, except in reference to our state of enslavement by evolved systems of control) through chemical/bioengineering/nanotechnological means doesn't have to end up at all like that.
check them out here: http://www.huxley.net/ .

lates,
cotarded.
 
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