Can positive charge move between charged bodies like electrons do?

[Anjum S Khan]

Suppose , there is a body B1(-vely charged) and body B2(+vely charged). When both are on contact, electrons move from B1 to B2 as B2 is having electron deficit. But is reverse also possible that protons move from B2 to B1 as B1 is having proton deficit.

 

[fresh_42]

We live in a radioactive environment, which means that we receive and emit $\alpha$ radiation. Otherwise we only lose protons if we cut our nails or go to the hairdresser. Protons are strongly bounded in the nuclei and cannot "get lost", except for radiation, and if they do, it is called radiation.

 

[Herman Trivilino]

We study that electrons gets in , gets out of body. But can protons do it too ? I never saw my textbook talking about it, hence this question.

You would need a nuclear reaction of much much higher energy to get a proton to come out of a body.

 

[Nugatory]

Reverse beta decay (proton to neutron, positon, and neutrino) might be the most likely way of removing positive charge from a body by radioactive decay.

 

[Anjum S Khan]

You would need a nuclear reaction of much much higher energy to get a proton to come out of a body.

Please see the attached image. Here what would happen to positive charge and why ? Positive charge would move to ground or electrons would move from ground to Body B ?

 

[Anjum S Khan]

We live in a radioactive environment, which means that we receive and emit $\alpha$ radiation. Otherwise we only lose protons if we cut our nails or go to the hairdresser. Protons are strongly bounded in the nuclei and cannot "get lost", except for radiation, and if they do, it is called radiation.

What would happen if two metallic bodies (A and B) are touching each other, and a positively charged body C is brought closer to Body A.
C A<->B
I read in textbook that protons (positive charge) move from both A&B to extreme right of B, and all electrons from both A&B accumulate near C. So, basically here protons left body A and get into body B.

 

[davenn]

I read in textbook that protons (positive charge) move from both A&B to extreme right of B, and all electrons from both A&B accumulate near C. So, basically here protons left body A and get into body B.

what textbook ?

no, I doubt that is possible

Protons are unlikely to move anywhere when inside a solid material. This is because protons are part of the atomic nucleus and are not just "floating" around freely within the material. The atomic nuclei are fixed within the atomic lattice that makes up the material.
This means that free electrons will be the only charges that will be doing any moving around.

 

[Anjum S Khan]

what textbook ?

no, I doubt that is possible

Protons are unlikely to move anywhere when inside a solid material. This is because protons are part of the atomic nucleus and are not just "floating" around freely within the material. The atomic nuclei are fixed within the atomic lattice that makes up the material.
This means that free electrons will be the only charges that will be doing any moving around.

It seems you are right, as by looking at the figure in my textbook I got the feeling that protons moved from body A through body B. I am attaching the exact same figure.
After reading your answer, now my thinking is +ve charge accumulation in B is because of replusion from body A, and there is no +ve charge transfer from A to B.

 

[256bits]

what textbook ?

no, I doubt that is possible

Protons are unlikely to move anywhere when inside a solid material. This is because protons are part of the atomic nucleus and are not just "floating" around freely within the material. The atomic nuclei are fixed within the atomic lattice that makes up the material.
This means that free electrons will be the only charges that will be doing any moving around.

I am not sure if that is quite right.
Pure water is a proton conductor, where the proton ( what is a proton if not just a hydrogen atom without the electron ) will jump from water molecule to the next on so forth in a electrical field, Pure Ice water, with the more water molecule connections is a better conductor than liquid water.

wiki has a slim write-up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_conductor
the proton conducting ceramics borrow the proton from the air ( humidity - not sure what happens to resulting OH- , negatively charged air ), to attach to O atoms in the ceramic where it can migrate to adjacent O atoms of the solid.

But as you say, with nuclei of greater than 1 protons, these particular protons do not migrate.

 

[fresh_42]

I read in textbook that protons (positive charge) move from both A&B to extreme right of B, and all electrons from both A&B accumulate near C. So, basically here protons left body A and get into body B.

A positive (negative) charged body is basically a body with missing (additional) electrons. As electrons are all around everywhere, this gap will immediately by closed (the additional electrons will be emitted). Protons are irrelevant, except for the natural radioactivity.

 

[davenn]

I am not sure if that is quite right.
Pure water is a proton conductor, where the proton ( what is a proton if not just a hydrogen atom without the electron ) will jump from water molecule to the next on so forth in a electrical field, Pure Ice water, with the more water molecule connections is a better conductor than liquid water.

He 's talking about solids and so am I, read the posts
we were both very specific ...
last time I looked, water and any other liquid, isn't a solid ... there is no atomic lattice

 

[davenn]

After reading your answer, now my thinking is +ve charge accumulation in B is because of replusion from body A, and there is no +ve charge transfer from A to B.

Yes, but don't use the accumulate (accumulation) at that infers that the + charges are moving.
Rather there is now an excessive + charge in an area because the - charges ( the electrons) are
driven off/forced away/repelled from that area by the presence of a negatively charged object.

 

[256bits]

He 's talking about solids and so am I, read the posts
we were both very specific ...
last time I looked, water and any other liquid, isn't a solid ... there is no atomic lattice

As I mentioned, after the preamble for water,

Pure Ice water, with the more water molecule connections is a better conductor than liquid water.

Read the whole post.

The proton conductivity of ceramics, such as
https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.1357783
https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.4754298Quote
Hydroxyapatite (HAp), well known as a biomaterial, is also known as a proton conductor. Its electrical properties are related strongly to its stability and surface properties. In particular, persistent electrical polarization related to proton conductivity of hydroxyapatite has a substantial influence on hydroxyapatite surface properties.
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Hydroxyapatite is a type of calcium phosphate found in bones and teeth.

 

[davenn]

As I mentioned, after the preamble for water,

Read the whole post.

yeah, I had done so back at that time ... your comments were, unfortunately, going way off topic
there wasn't really any need to bring in liquids