Can Power Line Communication Transmit Data Without Interrupting Power Supply?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the feasibility of transmitting data via Power Line Communication (PLC) without interrupting the power supply. Participants explore various aspects of PLC, including modulation techniques, signal propagation, and regulatory considerations, while addressing concerns about data transmission alongside electrical power.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the transmission of data from a home to an energy station and whether sending data would result in a power cut, suggesting a concern about half-duplex operation.
  • Another participant mentions that RF signals can propagate along transmission lines but notes that transformers may pose barriers, indicating the potential need for repeaters or filters.
  • There is a discussion about the possibility of neighbors receiving signals, similar to telephone lines, and the necessity of using different frequencies or time slots for multiplexing.
  • A participant expresses interest in using OFDM or CDMA techniques for differentiation in their project and questions the feasibility of creating a homemade kit for these methods.
  • Regulatory considerations are raised regarding communication bands allowed on powerline segments, with a distinction made between home and higher voltage supply lines.
  • One participant suggests that FSK modulation may be preferable to ASK for their project and asks whether digitally modulated signals can be sent through live wires or if conversion to analog is required.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the technical aspects of PLC, including modulation techniques and signal propagation challenges. There is no consensus on the best approach or the specifics of implementation, indicating that multiple competing views remain.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the limitations imposed by distribution transformers on PLC and the need for compliance with government regulations regarding communication bands, which may affect the feasibility of certain approaches.

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Hello,
I am new to this environment and I am about to do my final year project with the Power Line Communication.I am having some doubts regarding.Could anyone here explain how the data from my home can be transmitted to the energy station?
some says that the system comes with half-duplex.So if i am sending data,will i be having a power cut?
And if i am sending data with a low power,will that be reaching the energy station or will go to other homes in my neighborhood or even comes back to me??


some one explain
 
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It depends on what frequency you intend to use but RF signals will propagate quite well along transmission lines. Transformers may be a bit of a barrier, though, and you may need repeaters (/ regenerators / high voltage bandpass filters) to get past them. As far as your neighbours are concerned, the problem is the same as for regular telephone lines; they may get some of your signals and, if you all want to communicate, you will need to use different frequency or time slots in a multiplex.
 
sophiecentaur said:
It depends on what frequency you intend to use but RF signals will propagate quite well along transmission lines. Transformers may be a bit of a barrier, though, and you may need repeaters (/ regenerators / high voltage bandpass filters) to get past them. As far as your neighbours are concerned, the problem is the same as for regular telephone lines; they may get some of your signals and, if you all want to communicate, you will need to use different frequency or time slots in a multiplex.

thx for the reply friend.In order to differentiate I planned to have either OFDM or CDMA technique in them.Is that feasible to make a Practical Home made CDMA or OFDA kit.
And how can I make a ASK in the 230V 50Hz signal as in my country?
 
yasthicklee said:
thx for the reply friend.In order to differentiate I planned to have either OFDM or CDMA technique in them.Is that feasible to make a Practical Home made CDMA or OFDA kit.
And how can I make a ASK in the 230V 50Hz signal as in my country?

You need to look up the government regulations for the different communication bands allowed on the powerline segments. There will be one set of rules for in the home, and another set of rules for the higher voltage supply lines and distribution transformers. And as mentioned, powerline comms do not usually make it through distribution transformers. Different comms are used on the two sides of distribution transformers.
 
It seems that Instead of making the modulation in the ASK I found its a bit good in the FSK format.I had a look at the Telephone system making the transfers in dc,LF,HF and in high freq.So I decided to do my project in FSK modulation.
Can I send the digitally modulated signals through the Live wires or should I have to convert that to analog to get that done?
 

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