Can self-study/teaching count as credentials?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the value of self-study and teaching as credentials for future employment, particularly in STEM fields. Participants explore the implications of self-directed learning versus formal education, especially in the context of job requirements and perceptions of qualifications.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that self-study and teaching cannot be officially recognized as credentials since only accredited organizations can confer such status.
  • Others suggest that while self-study may not equate to formal credentials, it can still be valuable, particularly in educational roles if supported by references from supervisors.
  • It was noted that job requirements vary; some positions may require specific accredited degrees, while others may prioritize demonstrated skills over formal qualifications.
  • One participant shared their experience that programming jobs often focus more on skills and portfolios than on specific degrees, indicating a potential pathway for those without formal credentials.
  • Concerns were raised about the long-term perception of self-study without a degree, with some participants asserting that employers may not view self-study as equivalent to formal education.
  • It was highlighted that while self-study may be beneficial, it does not produce a transcript, which is often necessary for employers to assess qualifications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that self-study is not equivalent to formal credentials, but there is disagreement on the extent to which self-study can be valued by employers. Some believe it can be beneficial in certain contexts, while others maintain that formal degrees are necessary for serious consideration in the job market.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying employer expectations regarding qualifications and the role of self-directed learning in professional development. There are unresolved nuances regarding how different fields perceive self-study and the importance of formal education.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering self-study as a means to enhance their qualifications, those exploring career transitions in STEM fields, and educators seeking to understand how self-directed learning may be perceived in the job market may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello, long time lurker here on PF. I was wondering if there is anyway that I could make self-study/teaching count in any way as credentials for future jobs?

I have a masters degree already but I'm hesitant to jump into a PhD since it would require that I attend part time while I work full time as my employment would be paying for it.
 
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Cibo Matto said:
I was wondering if there is anyway that I could make self-study/teaching count in any way as credentials for future jobs?
No. Credentials can only come from accredited organizations and you are not an accredited organization
 
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Cibo Matto said:
Hello, long time lurker here on PF. I was wondering if there is anyway that I could make self-study/teaching count in any way as credentials for future jobs?

I have a masters degree already but I'm hesitant to jump into a PhD since it would require that I attend part time while I work full time as my employment would be paying for it.
In the strictly official sense, no. But that's not the end of the story. If you look for a job in education or in teaching, any volunteer work can count for something, especially if you secure a reference for what you did. Did you participate as teacher or tutor in some non-paid situation, and then are there supervisors who know the quality of your volunteer work? This will count for something.
 
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It depends on the requirements for the job. Some jobs have non-negotiable requirements for specific accredited degrees in specific fields. Other jobs require a specific degree (Bachelors, Masters, or PhD) but are more flexible on the specific field as long as you can make a case for the skills. Other jobs have more of a focus on whether you can demonstrate the skills without a specific degree requirement.

My experience is that programming jobs usually focus more on demonstrated skills than specific degrees. Build a portfolio of code and completed projects and you can land jobs without a degree in computer science. Given the dearth of qualified STEM teachers, a lot of districts are also flexible in hiring folks with BS degrees without specific educational degrees.
 
Thanks for all the responses everyone.

I was thinking more along the lines of expanding my knowledge with books and work experience. I'm finding that my current job is requiring me to learn other fields (shock physics, high speed fluids, plasma physics) I had not originally studied for. Naturally I've taken to some books when I can to learn the fundamentals and more when I have the time. I started to take classes in order to give my learning some structure but I'm finding it more difficult to manage my time effectively with said courses. Plus I'm currently only taking prerequisites and haven't even reached the courses that I actually need. The fork in the road I'm facing is to continue taking courses to gain the credentials or spend the time to learn the material on my own.

I'm concerned that If I don't receive the degree then at later time I won't be taken seriously when presenting my experience for another job, promotion, etc.
 
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I'm concerned that If I don't receive the degree then at later time I won't be taken seriously when presenting my experience for another job, promotion, etc.
Definitely, taking a few courses and then self studying will not be viewed as the same as completing a degree. Nor should it.

Some employers will want the skills but not need the degree, they may be willing to accept the self study and may even prefer it. Other employers will need the degree, they will not be willing to accept self study.

Neither set of employers will consider the self study to be the same as the degree.
 
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Learned from books - maybe employer-testable if the representative knows how; but still, no transcript.
Studied a course - produces an entry on your transcripts. The employer representative may still want to test you on this content.

"I studied from a book", is not a transcript.
An entry on university or college transcripts is at least, in many cases, a partial credential.
 

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