Can Space Itself Store Energy?

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The discussion centers on whether space itself can store energy, with participants debating the relationship between energy, mass, and space. One contributor suggests that energy and mass are equivalent, referencing Einstein's equation, while questioning if space can act as an energy storage mechanism. Others clarify that energy is a property of matter, not geometry, and argue against the idea that space behaves like a fluid or can store energy. The conversation also touches on the nature of photons and gravitational waves, ultimately concluding that personal theories should be approached with caution. The thread concludes with an acknowledgment of misinformation and a request to adhere to forum rules.
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TLDR I have no idea what I am talking about . Read this if you're bored.

I now realize I may have the wrong category. Please let me know what category would be best for my question. Thanks.

Can energy be stored in space itself?

With the equation e = mc^2 if we set the constant to c=1 then e=m. The speed of light is arbitrary in my understanding.

To me that means energy is the same thing as mass. With the new experiment of creation of electrons using photons does that mean that space is an energy storage mechanism? Are photons just a manifestation of space vibrating?
 
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Can energy be stored in space itself?
No, energy is a property of stuff. Space itself is not stuff, it is just geometry.

To me that means energy is the same thing as mass.
there is an equivalence, yes.

With the new experiment of creation of electrons using photons does that mean that space is an energy storage mechanism?
No, you can't "store energy" in geometry
Are photons just a manifestation of space vibrating?
I don't even know what that might mean. Geometry doesn't vibrate.
 
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What does geometry mean to you? A predictable point system in space? Can you link me an article on the geometry meaning you are referring to? I am just uneducated to the point you are phinds. Thank you for responding.
 
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What does geometry mean to you? A predictable point system in space? Can you link me an article on the geometry meaning you are referring to? I am just uneducated to the point you are phinds. Thank you for responding.
Google "metric expansion". I also recommend the link in my signature.
 
When I look on the world I don't see particles any more. I see density of space. Space acts similar to a fluid. It moves with gravitational waves just as it does electromagnetic photons. They are one in the same. Gravity is the pull of space inward and photons are the vibration of space outward. Its all just space. There are waves in space, there are reversals of space (particles) and there are movements of space, dark energy. The speed of light is the speed at which a wave can propogate through space.

This is probably wrong but it seems to fit the bill. This is only my experience.
 
Thanks phinds for the link. Ill check it out. I appreciate it.
 
And just to add a point that may make me seem even crazier. It seems to me that conciousness may be a property of space. Everything made of space and even matter may be conscious to some point. We (humans) just have the ability to move and show conciousness. Its a different thought and may be a crazy thought but it seems to make sense in this crazy world. I just wanted to write this down in case its true.
 
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When I look on the world I don't see particles any more. I see density of space.
You will not find that to be a helpful point of view
Space acts similar to a fluid. It moves with gravitational waves just as it does electromagnetic photons.
No, space does not act like a fluid. Gravitational waves distort space-time but that doesn't mean space acts like a fluid
They are one in the same.
No, they are not.
Gravity is the pull of space inward and photons are the vibration of space outward.
This is just word salad.
This is probably wrong but it seems to fit the bill. This is only my experience.
No, it is your OPINION, not something you have experienced.
 
By the way, you might want to read the forum rules. Specifically the one about personal theories.
 
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Sorry phinds. I didnt mean to spread misinformation. Ill put a thing at the top tldr. That was not my intent. Sorry to waste your time. Thanks for responding.
 
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