Can Two Independent Lasers Create an Interference Pattern?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around whether two independent lasers can create an interference pattern when one is shined perpendicular to the other. Participants explore the implications of laser beam interactions, the conditions for interference, and the effects on a photon detector.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that the two lasers will not interfere with each other, regardless of their orientation.
  • Others propose that destructive interference could occur, potentially resulting in a lower detection rate at the meter.
  • A participant questions the assumption that the two waves are 90° out of phase, clarifying that they are simply perpendicular.
  • It is noted that two independent lasers would not maintain a constant phase difference, which could affect interference.
  • One participant emphasizes that if the second laser is not shining on the detector, it would not affect the reading from the first laser.
  • Another participant illustrates a specific configuration of the lasers and asks for clarification on why the phase difference would not be time invariant.
  • Some participants agree that interference patterns would only occur in regions where both beams are present.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on whether the two lasers can create an interference pattern, with some asserting that they cannot interfere while others suggest that conditions could allow for interference effects.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the phase relationship between the two lasers and the conditions under which interference might occur. The discussion includes various interpretations of the setup and the implications of laser independence.

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If a laser was shined at a device to measure the amount of photons striking it and then another laser was shined perpendicular to first laser, would the reading on the meter change?
 
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No, the photons will not interfere with each other.
 
I imagine it would because destructive interference at that point would result in a lower detection rate.
 
Drakkith said:
No, the photons will not interfere with each other.

Sorry for double post but I just saw your post. Why would they not interfere with each other if the waves are 90° out of phase?
 
euquila said:
Sorry for double post but I just saw your post. Why would they not interfere with each other if the waves are 90° out of phase?

Let's be clear. I thought the OP was talking about shining a beam THROUGH another beam. Is that what you were thinking?
 
euquila said:
Sorry for double post but I just saw your post. Why would they not interfere with each other if the waves are 90° out of phase?
You seem to have some misconceptions.

For starters, nobody said the two waves were 90° out of phase, only that the two beams were perpendicular to each other.
Secondly, two different & independent lasers would not maintain a constant phase difference.
Third, as I interpret the OP, the second laser beam is not shining on the detector, so the second laser has no effect on the detector reading.
 
That is correct Drakkit. And would the angle matter? What I was asking was would the beams interfere with each other? and the second laser was not shining on the detector
 
maxentropy said:
That is correct Drakkit. And would the angle matter?
As long as the 2nd beam is not actually shining on the detector, then no the angle would not matter.
 
So the second laser would not affect the reading from the first, correct?
 
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maxentropy said:
So the second laser would not affect the reading from the first, correct?

Correct.
 
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From what I understand, this is the situation (ignore the dots as I'm using them for spacing):
1...2
\.../
.\.../
..\../
...\/
----------------------- Detector

Beam 1 and 2 form and angle of 90° between each other and 45° to the detector.

Would there not be interference where the two beams meet at the detector?

Can you explain to me (never took optics) why would the phase difference between two lasers not be time invariant?

Thanks in advance
 
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Why should it be? The two oscillators are not synchronous.
 
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euquila said:
From what I understand, this is the situation (ignore the dots as I'm using them for spacing):
1...2
\.../
.\.../
..\../
...\/
----------------------- Detector


My understanding of the setup was more like this:
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       1
       |
       |
2 ---+---->
       |
       |
       |
       V
     ---- detector
 
  • #14
Right. There is no interaction with matter where they intersect. Thank you for clarifying!
 
  • #15
Whatever the physical layout is, the two lasers would be independent of each other so you would not get any interference effects. Even if they were synchronised and the beams crossed each other at right angles, any interference would only occur where the beams cross and they would emerge from this overlap zone totally unaffected. The principle of superposition applies - field vectors add arithmetically in a linear medium.

Any interference pattern will only occur in regions where both beams are present.
 

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