Can use Carbon to create Diode

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of using carbon to create diodes as an alternative to silicon and germanium. Participants explore the properties, historical context, and potential advantages and disadvantages of carbon-based diodes, including challenges related to material quality and doping.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether carbon can be used to create diodes instead of silicon and germanium, citing the need for single crystal materials like diamond.
  • One participant notes that growing large, high-quality diamonds has historically been difficult, which impacts their use in electronics.
  • There is mention of challenges in finding suitable n-type dopants for diamond, with boron being effective for p-type but traditional n-type dopants like phosphorus not working well.
  • Some participants highlight that while carbon nano-materials may have potential as semiconductors, their current cost makes them less viable compared to silicon.
  • Another participant discusses the advantages of silicon over germanium, particularly its ability to operate at higher temperatures and the lower 'turn on' voltage of germanium diodes for small signals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the viability of carbon as a diode material, with some acknowledging potential future applications while others emphasize the current superiority of silicon and germanium. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the practical use of carbon in diode technology.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the historical difficulties in growing single crystal diamonds, challenges in doping diamond effectively, and the high cost of carbon nano-materials compared to traditional semiconductor materials.

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Can use Carbon to create Diode instead of
Silicon-germanium ?
if yes why we don't have carbon diode? what is advantages and disadvantages?
 
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Since we need single crystal material, we're talking diamond. Historically, growing large single crystal diamonds has not been possible. If I could grow large, high-quality diamonds, I would probably focus on selling them as gems first before I would sell them to make electronics. Also, finding a good n-type dopant in diamond has been a problem (boron works well for p-type diamond, but for reasons I don't understand, the historic n-type dopants like phosphorous don't work well in diamond). However, there is a large research effort going on to make diamond electronics, and many people believe it will eventually replace silicon due to its higher thermal and electrical conductivity. Here's one recent article:

http://www.semiconductor-today.com/news_items/2012/MAY/ELEMENTSIX_230512.html
 
I think that in the past carbon in the form of coke was one of the things used as the diode detector for crystal set radios.
 
It's the question of quality. There are a number of properties you are looking for in a diode, and you just get better ones from silicone and even better from germanium.

There are some carbon nano-materials that apparently make good semiconductors. So we might start using these in the future, but right now, it's prohibitively expensive. You get best quality for the money with silicone, which is why we use it.
 
A strange comparison of silicon (silicone!) and germanium.
I understand that the advantage of silicon over germanium was it's ability to operate at higher temperatures before the onset of intrinsic conduction.
Germanium diodes have a smaller 'turn on' voltage than silicon diodes and this is an advantage when dealing with small signals.
 

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