Can You Find All Triangle Angles from 2 Sides?

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The discussion revolves around determining all the angles in a triangle given only the lengths of two sides. Participants explore the implications of this scenario within the context of triangle properties and relationships between sides and angles.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the possibility of finding angles based on the lengths of two sides, with some suggesting the use of the cosine rule and the law of sines. Questions arise about how to handle the unknown third side and the implications of varying angles between the known sides.

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The conversation is active, with various perspectives being shared. Some participants express skepticism about the feasibility of determining angles with only two sides known, while others suggest methods that could potentially lead to a solution if additional information is provided.

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There is a recognition of the limitations imposed by the lack of angle information, with some participants noting that knowing the angle between the two sides could change the situation significantly. The original poster acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the problem setup.

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Is it possible to determine all the angles in a triangle, if we only know the length of two sides?

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I was thinking for quite some time and I don't think it is possible. It probably is, if two sides are peprendicular but if not, I don't think so.
 
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Think about how you relate the sides and angles of a triangle?
 
You mean the definition of the dot product?

##\vec{a}\cdot \vec{b}=\left \| \vec{a} \right \|\left \| \vec{b} \right \|cos\theta ##

Would be great yeah, but I don't have the coordinates. I only have the length of the sides.
 
A modified version of that dot product called the cosine rule comes in handy for this. Have you studied this?
 
I have.

##c^2=a^2+b^2-2abcos\theta ##

But this is a "system" of one equations with two parameters. How would you reduce the number of parameters, or better; how would you find the length of the third side?
 
Don't you know all the sides, as in the problem?
 
Hah. Ok, there is a mistake in the original post. I apologize.
I only know the length of TWO sides. (I will edit my first post)
 
You can use the law of Sines as well. I think you can eliminate the third side by using an expression for it derived from law of sines.
 
I can eliminate the third side but than I get another angle inside the equation.

##\frac{a}{sin\alpha }=\frac{b}{sin\beta }=\frac{c}{sin\gamma }##
and
##c^2=a^2+b^2-2abcos\gamma##

gives me ##(a\frac{sin\gamma }{sin\alpha })^2=a^2+b^2-2abcos\gamma##
 
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Let ##b, c## be two sides of a triangle with known lengths and let ##\alpha## be the angle between them. Now consider each ##\alpha \in (0, \pi)##.
 
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Not at all possile to know the angle of triangle with two sides known.There will e infinite number of solutions .
Just think how will you first draw the trianle with two lengths are known.First draw one line whose length is known.Then try to draw the second line starting from on edge of the first line.This second line can be drawn at any angle zero to 360 deg.So that will result in infinite number of lines .So finally finished triange will have will have infinite solutions.
 
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If you know the length of two sides and the angle between those two, you can figure it out. If you know the length of two sides and the angle between one of them and the third side, you can narrow it down to two possibilities. If you don't know /any/ angles, though, there's nothing you can do.
 
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Yup, I thought this may be the case yeah. :/

Ok, thanks!
 

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