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The discussion revolves around the properties of the field Q[sqrt(2)] and whether every element in this field has a square root also within the same field. The original poster presents an equation involving square roots and seeks to determine the validity of their assertion regarding the existence of counterexamples.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive a condition for the existence of square roots in Q[sqrt(2)] and questions whether their initial conclusion is correct. Some participants suggest examining specific elements, such as -1, as potential counterexamples.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback and suggestions for further exploration. The original poster expresses gratitude for the input and indicates they have reached a conclusion, though the specifics of that conclusion are not detailed.

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There is an implicit assumption regarding the properties of elements in Q[sqrt(2)] and their representation, which is being scrutinized. The original poster's inquiry also reflects the constraints of homework guidelines that may limit the types of responses they can receive.

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Consider Q[sqrt(2)].
Does every element of Q[sqrt(2)] have a square root in Q[sqrt(2)] ?
Prove if true, and give a counterexample if false.My solution:
sqrt(sqrt(2)) = a + bsqrt(2)

if I square both sides then I will have :

sqrt(2) = (a + b*sqrt(2))^2
= a^2 + 2ab*sqrt(2) + 2b^2

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I think the answer should be false. Am I right?

If I am right. Can you suggest me a counterexample. Thank you very much.

If I am wrong. Please correct me. Thanks
 
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Well you're almost done. You need to show no such a and b will work.
 
How about -1?
 
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sqrt(2) = a^2 + 2ab*sqrt(2) + 2b^2
= (a^2+ b^2)+ 2ab sqrt(2),
Since every number in Q(sqrt(2)) can be written uniquely as "x+ ysqrt(2)" for rational x, y, what does that tell you about a and b?
 
Thank you very much for your opinion. I have solved this question.
 

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