Programs Can You Learn Physics Without Majoring in It?

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Interest in physics, particularly General and Special Relativity and Quantum Mechanics, is expressed alongside concerns about career prospects without a physics degree. The discussion highlights that substantial knowledge can be gained through self-study, classes, or a double major without sacrificing employability. Engineering is suggested as a viable career path that incorporates physics and math, offering strong job prospects. While detailed study of advanced physics topics may not be included in engineering programs, foundational courses in mechanics and modern physics can provide a good base. Mathematical literacy, including skills in partial differential equations and tensor calculus, is emphasized as essential for further study in physics. Quantum Mechanics is noted as a requirement in some engineering fields, while General Relativity is less commonly taught at the undergraduate level. A bachelor's degree in physics can lead to various non-research jobs, often with competitive salaries, making it a practical choice compared to other fields like law.
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So, I'm really interested in physics. I'd love to learn the ins and outs of the major theories such as General and Special Relativity as well as Quantum Mechanics. However, I don't believe that obtaining a degree with a major in physics is a wise career choice. Does anyone know if it is possible to get a substantial knowledge of physics without sacrificing my ability to find a non-research job?
 
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Well, you could just take classes for fun, or self-study. Or even a double major. There's no reason why you couldn't get all the knowledge you want, nothing is sacrificed.

What career are you considering?
 
I'm not entirely sure which career I would be interested in, but I was thinking of something more readily-available for hire. I have some faith that I would excel in accounting, engineering, or law. However, I do know that I'm not interested in research as more than a hobby in any field other than chemical or biological engineering. My main worry is that I do not know of any stable careers available to physics majors other than research for projects such as NASA and nuclear plants, and professors at universities. I don't have confidence that I am NASA material, nor do I wish to learn something only to be doomed to teach it for the rest of my life. However, I don't want to abandon the study altogether, as I have already invested much of my childhood and teenage life in it.
 
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I'm not entirely sure which career I would be interested in, but I was thinking of something more readily-available for hire. I have some faith that I would excel in accounting, engineering, or law. However, I do know that I'm not interested in research as more than a hobby in any field other than chemical or biological engineering. My main worry is that I do not know of any stable careers available to physics majors other than research for projects such as NASA and nuclear plants, and professors at universities. I don't have confidence that I am NASA material, nor do I wish to learn something only to be doomed to teach it for the rest of my life. However, I don't want to abandon the study altogether, as I have already invested much of my childhood and teenage life in it.


Sounds like engineering would be good for you. Lots of physics/math and very employable. Probably won't learn any GR/SR or Quantum Mechanics(in detail) IN the engineering degree, but, you could always take a few intro courses on mechanics/e&m/modern physics to see how you liked it. Usually the intro calc based physics sequence is a prerequisite for the upper level real courses, so you would probably have to take them before a specific course in GR or Quantum.
 
nlsherrill said:
Sounds like engineering would be good for you. Lots of physics/math and very employable. Probably won't learn any GR/SR or Quantum Mechanics(in detail) IN the engineering degree, but, you could always take a few intro courses on mechanics/e&m/modern physics to see how you liked it. Usually the intro calc based physics sequence is a prerequisite for the upper level real courses, so you would probably have to take them before a specific course in GR or Quantum.

Fair enough, I had already been desiring taking that class. As much information is available online, there's still nothing like a professionally-constructed educational course. Cheers for the thoughts.
 
One thing that is sort of funny is that the mathematics of quantum mechanics and general relativity are very heavily used in engineering, it's just that engineers and physicists don't often realize this.

What I'd do is to first work on getting mathematical literacy. Partial differential equations and tensor calculus are the things that you'll need to know, and you'll learn them in any engineering curriculum. Once you can do that, then you can audit an intro class on QM or general relativity.

Also QM is an required course for some types of engineering. If you plan to do any sort of deep semiconductor engineering, QM will be a required part of the curriculum.
 
GR is very rarely taught at the undergrad level; it will be hard to find a program offering it, and it will be hard to convince them you're qualified to take the course if you're not a physics major. SR is much easier; you can take that with very little physics background. QM is in between.

You'd need a PhD in physics to do research; a bachelors degree qualifies you for a large number of positions (not research) and is very employable (and pays better on average than any other major besides engineering with no grad/professional school). Certainly more employable than a law degree right now.
 

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