Can You Solve This Improper Integral Trick for [0, infinity]?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the improper integral of the function (x^3)/((e^x)-1) over the interval [0, infinity]. Participants are exploring various techniques and substitutions to approach the problem, questioning the methods and the underlying assumptions involved in the integration process.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss integration techniques such as integration by parts and substitutions, particularly questioning the effectiveness of substituting u = e^x - 1. There is also mention of transforming the integrand into a different form to facilitate evaluation.

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Some participants have provided insights into the transformation of the integral and the potential connection to series involving inverse powers. However, there is no explicit consensus on a straightforward method to evaluate the integral, and the discussion remains open with various approaches being explored.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the use of special functions and the implications of certain substitutions. There is also a mention of the integral's relevance to physical constants, indicating a broader context for the problem.

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Int[(x^3)/((e^x)-1)] [0, infinity]

What is the trick?

I thought of by-parts but how would you integrate 1/((e^x)-1)?

Substitution won't work with
u = e^x -1
with x = ln|u+1|

or it would be rather tough to evaluate u^3


Someone please give me a hint.
 
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You can take:

[tex]\frac{1}{e^x-1} = \frac{e^{-x}}{1-e^{-x}}[/tex]

and then use the substitution u=1-e-x.
 
u=1-e^-x
and dU= e^-x dx
dx = e^x du

e^-x = 1-u
e^x = 1/(1-u)


[(1-u)/u][1/(1-u)] = 1/u

Now putting limits from 0 to infinity.
ln|1-e^-x| = ln(1) - ln(1-1) = 0

That doesn't work.
 
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Well, that's how you would get the indefinite integral of 1/(ex-1), which is what I thought you wanted, and although this diverges at 0 as 1/x, your original integral will not because of the x3 in the numerator.

So getting back to the original integral, I don't know how you would find the indefinite integral of this, but the trick to find the integral over the range you specified is this:

[tex]\int_0^{\infty} \frac{x^3 dx}{e^x-1} = \int_0^{\infty} \frac{x^3 e^{-x} dx}{1-e^{-x}}[/tex]

[tex]= \int_0^{\infty} x^3 e^{-x} (1+e^{-x}+e^{-2x}+...)dx[/tex]

This can be turned into a sum over the inverse fourth powers of the natural numbers, whose value is, I think, pi^4/90.
 
Exactly correct!

StatusX said:
[tex]\int_0^{\infty} \frac{x^3 dx}{e^x-1} = \int_0^{\infty} \frac{x^3 e^{-x} dx}{1-e^{-x}}[/tex]

[tex]= \int_0^{\infty} x^3 e^{-x} (1+e^{-x}+e^{-2x}+...)dx[/tex]

This can be turned into a sum over the inverse fourth powers of the natural numbers, whose value is, I think, pi^4/90.

Exactly correct! In general: for all real y>1, (or complex y with real part greater than 1,) let

[tex]I_y=\int_0^{\infty} \frac{x^{y-1} dx}{e^x-1} = \int_0^{\infty} x^{y-1} e^{-x}\frac{1}{1-e^{-x}}dx,[/tex]

expanding the fraction as a geometric series gives

[tex]\frac{1}{1-e^{-x}}=\sum_{k=0}^{\infty} e^{-kx}[/tex]

and hence

[tex]I_y= \int_0^{\infty} x^{y-1}e^{-x}\sum_{k=0}^{\infty} e^{-kx}dx = \int_0^{\infty} \sum_{k=1}^{\infty} e^{-kx}x^{y-1}dx = \sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \int_0^{\infty} e^{-kx}x^{y-1} dx[/tex]

substitute [itex]u=kx[/itex] so that [itex]x=\frac{u}{k},[/itex] and hence [itex]dx=\frac{du}{k}[/itex] to get

[tex]I_y=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \int_0^{\infty} e^{-u}\left( \frac{u}{k} \right) ^{y-1} \frac{du}{k} = \sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \left( \frac{1}{k} \right) ^{y} \int_0^{\infty}e^{-u}u^{y-1}du=\zeta (y)\Gamma (y)[/tex]

By the way, I coppied this proof from mathworld. :biggrin:

In particular, we have [tex]\int_0^{\infty} \frac{x^3 dx}{e^x-1} =\int_0^{\infty} \frac{x^{4-1} dx}{e^x-1} = \zeta (4)\Gamma (4) = \frac{\pi ^4}{90}\cdot 3! = \frac{\pi ^4}{15}[/tex]
 
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Is there another and easier way?

I was never introduced to special functions.
 
Not really. All you have to do is get it into a form involving the sum:

[tex]1+\frac{1}{2^4}+\frac{1}{3^4}+...[/tex]

You can get to this step as long as you know how to do integrals like:

[tex]\int_0^{\infty} x^3 e^{-a x} dx[/tex]

Once you have it into that form, you can just take it as a given that the above sum is [itex]\pi^4/90[/itex]. The fact that pi is involved gives you a clue there probably isn't an easier way, unless there were some lucky trig substitution (which I'm pretty sure there isn't).
 
It was very useful to calculate the Stefan-Boltzmann constant.
 

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