Can you use multiple wires to wind a solenoid?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on whether a solenoid can be constructed using multiple separate wires for each loop, as opposed to a single continuous wire. Participants explore the implications of this approach on the magnetic field strength, resistance, and efficiency of the solenoid.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if the magnetic field strength is determined by the length of the wire or the number of loops in the solenoid.
  • Another participant suggests that using multiple strands of wire is equivalent to using a single strand of the same gauge, as the combined gauge would be the same.
  • A different participant clarifies that they are referring to using separate strands for each loop, stacked on top of one another, and questions if this is equivalent to a single or braided strand winding.
  • Some participants argue that stacking loops is similar to stacking magnets, with the main difference being the length of wire required for the same number of loops.
  • Concerns are raised about the resistance of the coil being lower with multiple strands, and how this affects the power source requirements.
  • One participant posits that the magnetic field generated by stacked single coils may resemble that of superconducting wire due to reduced resistance, but another counters that it would require more wire and have increased contact resistance at the terminals, suggesting a single wire would be more efficient.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the efficiency and effectiveness of using multiple wires versus a single wire for winding a solenoid. There is no consensus on whether the magnetic field strength would be the same in both cases, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of resistance and efficiency.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the differences in resistance and wire length may affect the performance of the solenoid, but specific assumptions and conditions regarding the power source and circuit design are not fully explored.

JackWallace
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I am curious if an alternating solenoid coil needs to be wound with a single piece of wire from end to end, or - can each loop in the solenoid be made of a separate wire and stacked on top of the previous, as long as each termination is connected to the proper + / - terminal.

Essentially - is the field strength a function of the length of the wire - or simply the number of loops in the system.
 
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using multiple strands is no different to using a single strand of the same gauge wire as the combined gauge of the multiple strands

Dave
 
Thank you Davenn - though I think we are talking about two different things. I am referring to using each strand to initiate and terminate a single loop, then using another strand to make an identical single loop that will be stacked immediately on top of the first single loop.

Is this essentially the same as winding the full coil with a single or braided strand. Basically - the difference between a helical 'single' connected coil and a stack of loops.
 
It is the same thing. It's like stacking magnets. The difference would be in the length of wire needed to make the same amount of loops.
 
The resistance of your coil will be much lower. As long as your power source is of the correct voltage and current capacity it will work fine. It will not work fine in the same circuit that was designed for a series wound solenoid because it will draw too much current.
 
So, if I am understanding correctly - The generated magnetic field in these two examples will only differ due to the resistance in the wire.

i.e. - Multiple SINGLE coils stacked on top of each other represent something a little closer to the idea of using superconducting wire (higher current due to less resistance), than using a single piece of wire.

Is this correct?
 
JackWallace said:
So, if I am understanding correctly - The generated magnetic field in these two examples will only differ due to the resistance in the wire.

i.e. - Multiple SINGLE coils stacked on top of each other represent something a little closer to the idea of using superconducting wire (higher current due to less resistance), than using a single piece of wire.

Is this correct?


No; it will require more wire and also have more contact resistance at the power terminals. Given the same amount of wire, a single wire would be more efficient.
 
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Understood - thank you for your reply.
 

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