Can't wait for the release of the Kevin Federline album

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The discussion revolves around the anticipation of Kevin Federline's album release, with participants sharing their opinions on rap music, comparing various artists, and debating the merits of different albums and songs. The conversation includes references to classic rap albums and artists, as well as personal preferences in music.

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  • Some participants express excitement about Kevin Federline's upcoming album and his skills as a rapper.
  • Others argue that classic rap albums, such as "Paid in Full" by Eric B and Rakim, are superior and should be listened to for a true understanding of rap.
  • A few participants mention their preferences for rap from the early 1990s, suggesting that earlier works may not be as impactful.
  • There are strong opinions about Eminem's place in music history, with some participants claiming he is among the best, while others disagree and suggest he does not belong in the top ranks of musicians.
  • Comparisons between Eminem and classical composers like Beethoven and Mozart are made, with varying opinions on the validity of such comparisons.
  • Participants reference specific songs and lyrics to support their arguments about the influence and skill of various artists.

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The discussion features multiple competing views regarding the quality and significance of different rap artists and albums. There is no consensus on the superiority of any particular artist or album, and participants express a range of opinions on the comparisons made between rap and classical music.

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Participants reference various albums and songs, but there are no settled definitions or criteria for evaluating the music discussed. The conversation reflects personal tastes and subjective interpretations of music rather than objective assessments.

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It is going to be AWESOME! Have you guys heard his first single papa zao or something like that. He raps for well over 30 seconds straight. This guy has skills.
 
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I am guessing this is some sort of joke thread. If you want to listen to some real rap, buy the album Paid in Full by Eric B and Rakim [amazon.com]. The album was originally released in 1987, but is easily the best rap album ever made.

The album was ranked as the best rap album of all time by Entertainment Weekly a few years ago. Also, Paid In Full got 5 mics from the source, 5 stars from amg, and is #227 on the Rolling Stones 500 greatest Albums of all time

The above link only shows 10 reviews, because it was re-released in April 2005. Here is the link to the original released in 1987 if you want to read a lot more reviews.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000005HSR/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
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I have never listened to that album. 1987 seems a little too early for a really good rap album to be released though. I like rap that was out around 91-92. I guess Pauls Botique was out in 87.
 
If you have not listened to Paid In Full, then you have not listened to rap. Rakim is the god of rap, his lyrics are very complex, and his flow is insanely smooth. Seriously, spend the 10 bucks and listen to it. Give it a few listens too, as it will take you a little to be able to understand the complex lyrics and rhyming wordplay.

Get Paid in Full, and if you like it get Follow the Leader and Let the Rhythm Hit em, by the same guys (Eric B and Rakim). Also, you should check out the first two albums from Big Daddy Kane. And if you have not already, this is 1990-1993 rap, listen to The Low End Theory, or any of the first 3 albums, by A Tribe Called Quest.
 
I listen to A Tribe Called Quest. They are pretty bad ass. I saw them in concert in 97. They opened for the Beastie Boys in Kansas City for the Hello Nasty tour. I don't think they are together any more, are they?
 
Listen to the song Steve Biko(Stir It Up), from Midnight Mauraders, by ATCQ.
You will hear:
When the mic is in my hand I'm never hesitant,
my favorite jam back in the day was Eric B for President.
----

Of course, Eric B for President is on the album Paid in Full. It is actually my second or third least favorite song on the album, but it is still an awesome song, it's just that the entire album is awesome, and something has to be at the bottom, even if it is great.
 
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Yeah, but NO ONE can touch Eminem. He is the absolute COOLEST. I mean this guy is like the best thing to happen to music since Beethoven.
 
Nothing000 said:
Yeah, but NO ONE can touch Eminem. He is the absolute COOLEST. I mean this guy is like the best thing to happen to music since Beethoven.

Me thinks you have no idea what music is if you are comparing Eminem to Beethoven...
 
In my opinion the greatest musicians of recorded history are:
1. Beethoven
2. Eminem
3. Madonna
And Kevin Federline just might be my new number four favorite.
 
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Damn Straight. I knew no one would say anything about that list. I am just speaking the truth.
 
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Eminem would not even make my top 5 rappers, let alone top 5 musicians.
 
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Dude, that guy can flow. Have you ever heard that song called "Stan"? He raps super excellent on that cut.
 
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Nothing000 said:
Dude, that guy can flow. Have you ever heard that song called "Stan"? He raps super excellent on that cut.

I've listened to the best of Eminem and if you were able to bottle how good it was and amplify it by 100, you still wouldn't beat Mozart's worst.
 
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Dude, Eminem could flow at least 10 times better than Mozart.
 
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Nothing000 said:
Dude, Eminem could flow at least 10 times better than Mozart.

Do you even know who Mozart is?
 
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Yeah my post came off a bit harsh, he would actually be #6 on my rappers list. He's pretty good.

You have probably heard these Eminem songs (both of which are off Marshall Mathers LP).

The chorus to Eminem's "The Way I am" is:
I am whatever you say I am, if I wasn't then why would I say I am

This is somewhat taken from the Eric B and Rakim song "As the Rhyme goes on", where Rakim says:
I am the R the A to the K I M, if I wasn't then why would I say I am.

Also another Eminem song, "I'm Back", off the same album Marshall Mathers, plays off another Rakim rhyme:

I take seven [kids] from [Columbine], stand 'em all in line
Add an AK-47, a revolver, a nine
a Mack-11 and it oughta solve the problem of mine
and that's a whole school of bullies shot up all at one time
-------

Rakim said, back in 86-87, on the song "My Melody":
I take 7 emcees put em in a line,
and add 7 more brothers who think they can rhyme,
well it will take 7 more before I go for mine,
now that's 21 emcees ate up at the same time.

Both Eric B and Rakim songs from Paid in Full
 
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Yeah dude. Lil' Mozart, like probably one of the top ten rappers of all time.
 
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Nothing000 said:
Yeah dude. Lil' Mozart, like probably one of the top ten rappers of all time.
:smile: Mozart was indeed a very small man. About 1m 65cm.

regards
marlon

**** me AMADEUS !
 
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The intents of Beethoven and of Eminem as artists are so radically different - that even insofar as the are both generically described as "musicians", there's really no direct comparison to be made of any sort. You might as well compare superconductors and Aremaic. It would necessarily be demeaning to both.

Dude, Eminem could flow at least 10 times better than Mozart.

You've fallen flat on your face. Need a bandaid?

Pengwuino said:
I've listened to the best of Eminem and if you were able to bottle how good it was and amplify it by 100, you still wouldn't beat Mozart's worst.

I respectfully disagree. You obviously haven't heard Mozart's worst. :devil:
 
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rachmaninoff said:
I respectfully disagree. You obviously haven't heard Mozart's worst. :devil:

You obviously haven't heard eminem's best :smile: :smile: :smile:
 
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You can't spell c-r-a-p without r-a-p

that is all
 
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Cute one moose.
 
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